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[-] Doctor_Satan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Liberalism isn't going to save us. Way I see it, if we want a better country, we have three options:

  1. Violent revolution. This should be a last resort, and I don't think we are quite there yet.

  2. Wait for Fascism to collapse. It will. Problem is, A FUCKING LOT of people will suffer and die in the mean time.

  3. Mobilize a viable third party. No, not the Greens. They are just as corrupt as the rest, and they pal around with Fascist traitors. I'm talking about a real grass roots Leftist movement, starting from the ground up. Basically, use the exact same playbook that MAGA used. They spent the past decade taking over social media with their Manosphere bullshit, and suddenly Gen Z shifted hard to the Right, which younger generations almost never do. We need to take back that online space. Take over town hall meetings, take over school boards, take over city councils, show up in huge numbers to vote for actual good (or as good as we can get) judges and DA's. This also means volunteering, phone banking, door knocking, and most importantly of all, some of you need to run for office. Even something local can make a difference in your community. That's how MAGA won. They didn't even have the numbers. They just had the right strategy, and in their hubris, Democrats ignored it.

The third option is obviously what I prefer to happen. It'll take a few years, and we may not even win the White House in 2028. But this isn't about you or me. It's about the future of civilization. If they did it, so can we. Let's not be outsmarted by a bunch of people who worship a man who can't fucking read.

[-] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Not saying it can't be done, obviously it can but to many people saying "run for office" is like saying "build a car".

Are there primers on how to start with a campaign for people that have the desire but not the knowledge?

What is all involved in starting and running a successful campaign?

How much time do you need to dedicate to the campaign?

What would be the personal cost for running for office?

Who do you need to hire to help you (manager, donation specialist, volunteer coordinator, etc)?

My guess to this is that the higher the office the more people and money you will need.

I'm not writing this to be contrary but to really get answers - I think more people would be more open to the idea if they could see what a campaign needs to be successful.

[-] Floppybutton@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I'm specifically barred from holding any public office, political or not until I exit the military. I have about a year left before I can launch any kind of campaign legally. Assuming we survive that long, I plan to. That all said I have no idea what I'm doing and would love to have the answers to the questions you pose here.

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[-] BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

The 3rd option is still playing with liberal electoralism which got you here in the first place. you could get results faster with mutual aid and strong unions, this is how you guys got worker rights before, in the times of FDR.

A better presence in social media is a good direction though, especially in federated communities that don't need to fear corporate censorship.

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[-] shiiika@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago

Honestly I'm attempting option 3 any way I can currently. I keep telling my partner if I lose my job I oughta become one of those youtube/twitch talking heads but for actual leftist views and maybe I can help the shift back.

[-] lemmingthelemmers@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

This has a better chance at working if it's addressed to Santa Clause.

As long as we keep asking democrats to solve problems we deserve what we get. They have proved incompetence regularly since the Obamacare public option blunder (and longer than that) when the opportunity was there to make radical change.

When they hold office, they have no power. When they are out of office they cry about the power the other side has magically found. They always vote resoundingly in favor of war, lowering taxes on the rich/corporations, and their own salary increases while giving us all the parliamentarian middle finger.

And no you are not taking over or changing the party as it's owned by the people who don't want to help you.

Time to start fresh.

[-] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 6 points 1 week ago

We need a 3rd party thats not completely bought off.

[-] commander@lemmings.world 6 points 1 week ago

Stop voting for establishment politicians.

If they're part of the Obama/Clinton crew, they need to go.

[-] devedeset@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

That's part of the problem. In some states there are basically only establishment dems on the ballot. The popular dems at the moment are AOC and Bernie who are from NYC (Bronx) and Vermont respectively. Both of those areas are solid blue.

I'm out on the west coast, another very blue area, and the vibe is to primary out a few dems who are bending the knee

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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Nope, sorry, I just saw a politico article about Newsom agreeing with Charlie Kirk on trans people in sports that basically boiled down to "FINALLY! SOMEONE understands that this is the most critical topic in America today, and for Democrats to win, they need to become republicans!"

The democrats aren't leading us anywhere. They're not going to save us. They have no vision besides being dollar store republicans and wondering why Republican voters keep choosing Republicans over them.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

They have no vision besides being dollar store republicans and wondering why Republican voters keep choosing Republicans over them.

While screaming at anyone to their left for not being enthusiastic to vote for dollar store republicans.

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[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

at best the democrats don't understand the assignment. at worst they understand this to be the assignment

i fear for the core of the party, it's the latter, and that the majority is following that core because they don't know the assignment

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The dem party needs to be burned to the ground, I don't think it is reformable at this point.

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[-] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

The last guy in charge was a corporate lobbyist so..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Harrison

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

At this point a total collapse of the USA's 2-party-system seems the best of all realistic alternatives.

Because the Dems getting their shit together in less than 4 years certainly isn't realistic.

[-] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

The two party system can't collapse without taking the whole government down with it. It's baked into the constitution. Not in words as such, but in mathematical reality. I just want to be real about "realistic outcomes." Fix the parties or rewrite the whole fucking shebang.

And that second option—there is a lot unsaid there about how that comes about, but it's not by everyone embracing universal brotherhood and sisterhood and mutually agreeing on a better way.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The US government is like a beat up old car we try to keep on the road with Lucasoil and duct tape. We’ve needed to fix it a long time ago but we didn’t.

The car will eventually stop working and leave us stranded if we do nothing, but we also can’t afford to leave it at the mechanic for a week because we need to get to work in the morning.

The government will fall, people will be hurt by it, and we will have to make something new - note I didn’t say better - and it will happen at the least opportune time.

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[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

The two party system can collapse. It has several times before. What needs to happen is for the Democratic Party to go the way of the Whigs.

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[-] sillybread@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Blaming Democrats for... Not being shit compared to Republicans and MAGA? This is some next level stupidity. The fact is, propaganda is everywhere and most Americans are stupid. It's the perfect combination. GTFO of here.

[-] Lesrid@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

We can absolutely blame Democrats. They were the incumbent party, typically an enormous advantage, and squandered it. The lesser of two evils wasn't lesser enough. They didn't even run primaries when they dropped their incumbent president, so I can't even pretend the shame is on me.

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[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

I'll keep saying this: it's precious that people still believe The Constitution has any sway and that we are a country of laws. That ship has sailed over the horizon.

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[-] ofcourse@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The fact that Democrats should be raising their voices as loudly as possible against this admin’s moves but instead a sizable 10 of them voted to censure the 1 Democrat who tried to in fact do that, tells you everything about the Democrats’ plans.

At this point, there are only a handful of them who are rallying their constituents and speaking out about this admin’s atrocities, but the majority is completely MIA. Then they wonder why their voters are MIA during the elections.

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