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[-] tehmics@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Shockingly good news from a media corp. Paramount would just steal your discs and tell you to pound sand

[-] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

As would Sony and Disney. It is surprising that WB is doing this.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago

I think this is because WB used cheaper manufacturing and now they're failing way before they should.

[-] caboose2006@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

For those saying "just pirate it" some people like the option of physical media and have moral qualms about piracy. This is actually a good thing WB is doing. Just let people have their DVDs

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

If you own the physical DVD, fair use allows you to own a backup copy, so torrenting it in that case would not be unethical nor illegal.

[-] Krompus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

You’re allowed to make your own backup, but I’m pretty sure downloading somebody else’s backup is still illegal? First time I’ve seen someone suggest otherwise, would love more details about the actual laws.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

I'm not a law talking guy, but from my understanding of it, downloading isn't illegal. But if you're torrenting it, you're uploading bits of it to others while you're downloading. That would be distributing it to others, so that's copyright infringement.

So if you could find a way to download something without uploading anything, you'd be fine. Kinda like if someone uploads copyright infringing material to youtube. You're not going to get into hot water for watching that video, but the person who uploaded is.

[-] j0ester@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

It is illegal to download. If you want back ups, then you need to back it up on your own - this includes physical games as well - like NES and such.

[-] Zanz@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Downloading a copy would not be illegal in the US. Uploading a copy to someone would likely be illegal.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I mean maybe technically (I'm sure it varies depending on country). But I'm not aware of any cases where they've ever pursued anyone for that.

It's definitely a grey area in the US, I believe (again, no precedent set), and someone with a good lawyer could actually get a good ruling here, which would set the precedent. Which is probably why they never pursue it. I think that happened with VHS when people were taping shows in the 80s/90s (could be misremembering that).

The concept of "fair use" in general (not referring to specific interpretations of the term) definitely allows you to do this. At least how I interpret it. I am not a lawyer.

So if it were me, I'd only be concerned with the ethics, and I see nothing ethically wrong with it whatsoever. But that's just me.

[-] communism@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

I don't know about the US specifically, but oftentimes, and definitely where I'm from, laws can have a small amount of "common sense" leeway and judges can find justifications for rulings if they want to rule a particular way. e.g. I have pirated games that I legally bought because there's literally no functioning "official" download link anymore, if anyone were to ever prosecute me for that, even if it were illegal technically a judge could find a way to rule it lawful out of sympathy or whatever other reason, if they wanted to. A lot of the time it's "the government can't have possibly intended this law to be enforced this way, therefore I rule XYZ".

In any case, as you said, I've never heard of anyone being pursued for that. And if it's not enforced, it's not a law.

[-] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 month ago

I have bought then pirated media like this in many instances, usually because piracy is a better user experience, once because outdated DRM completely broke

[-] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

be ye shill or bootlicker, may thou be cast at great speed into our Goddess and saviour Sol

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

I must remind you where your Bluray Remux release is sourced from.

[-] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

my sibling in adhd, this went right over my head

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Fuck off, these people already own it at this point, so there is no such moral qualms. They paid for it. As for physical media, do you think only these companies can burn ISOs to DVD????

[-] pogmommy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

I totally understand the desire to own physical media and agree that WB is doing the right thing here, but optical media is terrible means of preserving media. If your discs are suffering from disc rot, you really shouldn't lose sleep over making or "sourcing" your own local digital copies.

[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Thanks for the reminder that I own DVDs

I forgot all about them in storage

[-] JoeDyrt@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

It doesn’t matter. If the CD/DVD works, copy it immediately. If not, so sorry.

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

or just pirate it whenever.

[-] Psythik@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah seriously; never understood why a certain sector of people obsess over backing up their personal media, when you can literally download a perfect copy straight from the internet with no effort on your part. Especially when it comes to widely-available media like popular Hollywood films or video games that sold well. Just grab a torrent and toss the disc.

[-] musubibreakfast@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Because these people often don't want to pirate. In Germany the government now fines you for piracy, using a common VPN isn't enough anymore. Then there are other factors such as remasters and changes.

Fight Club, The Matrix, The Terminator and Star Wars are all popular films but there are several versions out there with different color grades and special effects. So I completely understand why this subset of people would want to keep their version of the movie.

[-] exchange12rocks@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Fight Club, The Matrix, The Terminator and Star Wars

Yes, and you can find perfect exact copies of all versions of these movies if you look in the right places

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago

Pirated copies rarely contain any of the extras. Some people actually do watch those.

[-] LaggyKar@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

They're also generally lower quality

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Buying music CD and either ripping to flac or pirating flac after it (physically) arrived to keep it sealed.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org -1 points 1 month ago

Right? Oh no, my disc rot, good thing I have 3 backups.

[-] RxBrad@infosec.pub 2 points 1 month ago

I knew WB's HD-DVDs (remember those?) were a timebomb. I didn't realize regular DVDs were, too.

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 4 points 1 month ago

All optical media is.

[-] Tillman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Over the Top (dvd in photo) is an excellent movie.

[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 month ago

How does one find the manufacturing date of the discs?

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Cut it open and count the rings

[-] stankmut@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

If you turn the disc over, you can actually count the rings without needing to cut into it! This lets you skip having to glue the disc back together after checking the age.

[-] Lootboblin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I just checked one of my dvd shelf and two WB movies that should be in excellent condition were little bit sticky from both sides. This feels like a flashback to when Arturia’s hardware keys and knobs started to ”melt” after few years. Companies use cheapest plastics possible.

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