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Ukraine Must Cede Territory in Any Peace Deal, Rubio Says
(www.nytimes.com)
So, it's treason then
Someone should invade Rubio's house and demand the deed to one of his rooms before they'll leave.
"Turns out, Russia doesn't want to concede anything and demanded more Ukrainian land. Well, we tried. Clearly, it's high time for Ukraine to stop getting in the way of peace."
- Little Marco in a week
"we've tried nothing and we're already out of ideas"
At the rate we're going, I wouldn't be surprised if trump drops all sanctions against Russia, and starts even funding them and providing them US weapons and Intel. I just wouldn't be surprised.
I would assume they're getting the Intel already. The entire administration is comprised of Russian assets and useful idiots. Even if the info isn't being handed to them directly, all the existing security is being ripped to shreds and the teams that would counter any threats have officially been told to ignore Russia completely.
That said, I wouldn’t put it past Trump to publicly give Intel to Russia, but only because he's an idiot and assuming there is a low he won't sink to his always a losing bet.
I wouldn't be surprised if we're already in a slow rollout for him to go public with support for Russia. The deal could be that Russia and US split Ukraine in some way, whether it stays as "Ukraine" with installed leadership or blatantly annexed.
The problem is the maga cult and the Republicans in congress who would support it. The maga masses will lap up whatever propaganda they're fed like puppies and a bowl of peanut butter. But what the fuck are the Republican leadership thinking? At that point the US has fallen, but maybe it already has and we just don't know yet. But maybe not... time will tell.
Trump wants russia blessing when the US invades Greenland.
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I'd say it's a given at this point.
Trump has offended pretty much all of our major trade partners, so we need a new market to sell US goods as well as replace our imports. As it just so happens, Russia desperately needs goods due to the sanctions and has a reduced manufacturing capacity as a result of marching all their young (and not so young) men into a meat grinder. And even though Putin is a backstabbing, murderous, KGB thug Trump knows that he won't touch him, because Trump's just too useful of a flunky.
Granted it's a morally repugnant move, but when has that ever stopped Trump?
I miss the good old ‘we don’t negotiate with terrorists’ US.
If someone breaks into your house, kicks your dog and rapes your wife, you don’t negotiate to let them keep your TV. You shoot that fucker between the eyes. That’s what we need to be doing.
I miss the good old ‘we don’t negotiate with terrorists’ US.
Pretty sure that was only a thing in movies.
We negotiate with terrorists all the time.
US literally funds terrorists, gives them weapons, and gives them CIA training to do terrorism. It's like all these terrorist leaders went to the same school, of Americas.
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Likely true if we're being real but... You don't say that outloud you incompetent fucking negotiator.
Ukraine is winning. That's why Trump has stopped supporting them on request from Putin.
If your news isn't telling you Ukraine are currently stronger on the battlefield, change news outlets.
Russia is collapsing - this war is absolutely draining their economy. The questions are whether Ukraine could keep that momentum if the US suddenly cuts off communication media and whether continuing a war to a victorious position is worth the cost to Ukrainians. I'm not there, I don't get any input on the decision, but I'm absolutely understanding of my Ukrainian coworker that fled the country and wouldn't ill judge Ukraine seeking an earlier peace in exchange for concessions.
51% of respondents in December 2024 said that Ukraine should not give up any of its territories "under no circumstances... even if this would prolong the war and threaten the preservation of independence."
https://kyivindependent.com/38-percent-ukrainians-territorial-concessions/
Mind sharing a source. Latest stories i see is ukraine falling back in kursk and general russian advances on the main front
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He's a negotiator in the same way the drive thru person at McDonalds is a negotiator.
negotiator
I don't believe that Rubio has earned that distinction in the slightest, even in a derogatory manner. In fact, I am pretty sure that he has only ever once walked onto a used car lot and that resulted in only two things happening. One, learning that he ought not walk onto a used car lot. And two, the true value of a high mileage Jeep.
What a massive piece of shit
Gotta give him credit for being a consistent illegal occupation supporter.
He's treating Ukrainians now the same way he was treating Palestinians. Just cede occupied land to aggressors.
I don't see any peace deal unless there is security guarantees, it is not peace without guarantees.
This just embolden russia to rape Ukraine again for more lands. Marco Rubio is promoting a forever war.
Why do you put stock in security guarantees now?
Ukraine had security "guarantees" when Russia invaded because they gave up their nukes that Western nation have not followed through on.
Memorandum was not really a guarantee. NATO is more of a guarantee, nukes are more of a guarantee. Guarantee means NATO and/or Nukes.
Don't need to believe it will work, Nukes and NATO has worked in the past to maintain peace along russia borders.
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Without security guarantees, this isn't a "peace" deal, it's a capitulation and an invitation for future aggression from Russia.
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Why would Ukraine be negotiating with another adversary? That’s like a boxer going to the wrong corner after the round, that guy also wants you to get your ass kicked.
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I hope Ukraine doesn’t cede anything at all.
they are ok with ceding Texas...
Oh fuck off, Rubio.
Imagine a hypothetical scenario in which Mexico invades the United States, takes complete control over the state of New Mexico, and right in the middle of the conflict Great Britain says "the war needs to end", drafts a ceasefire proposal that allows them take control of half of the country's natural resources, and offers no security guarantees in the event that Mexico decides to attack again. If you refuse, the British will stop sending military aid to help you continue fighting. Oh, and Mexico gets to keep New Mexico.
Who in their right fucking mind thinks that this is a good deal? Any sensible person would rather continue fighting than give up their advantage for some flimsy ceasefire that won't stand up to an invader hellbent on conquest.
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I don’t see any peace deal happening that doesn’t involve ceding territory.
That said if I were Zelenskyy I would tell the US to pound sand and find someone else to mediate a more favourable deal, maybe Türkiye.
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Says the same guys who called Putin the victim while talking with Zelensky...
Not one inch.
The US just decided that they're not part of the negotiations anymore
“Let’s blow up the post war consensus and fuel everyone getting bombs.” This ain’t the way I thought we’d solve climate change, but making the human race extinct with nukes is certainly a way to avoid making them extinct through climate collapse.
Rubio is a snowflake bitch. As bad as Americans are right now, we're going to eat him in 2-3 years. Stay strong! Slava Ukraine!
Remember that one time when the US got in the way of peace when Britain invaded? Why were we so stubborn again? It's a mystery, but hopefully Ukraine doesn't repeat our mistakes.
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