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Stolen from @vmstan

More analysis from @wiredfire:

It’s nothing to do with [difficulties in using multiple platforms]. It’s to do with the massive backlash they got on Fedi for their CEO being all Trumpy and somewhat horrible right wing. So they’ve run away because they were made to feel unwelcome on account of us not letting their BS fly.

Original screenshot is of the bio of https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy and wasn’t a post (that confused me for a sec).

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[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It’s to do with the massive backlash they got on Fedi

That makes no sense, considering the message in question was posted on Xitter, and the backlash they received was far worse and more public on Reddit, where they are directing their followers to go. It won't stop anyone from talking about them here.

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

But the backlash on Reddit could be contained!

Half of it was on their subreddit, which they have full control over
Half of it was on r/privacy, which got removed by a Proton fan.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago

What's Xitter?

[-] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Portmanteau of X (current name) and Twitter (former name)

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

And shit, don't forget the shit

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's like Twitter but Xitty (pronounced like Xi Jinping).

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

You know I was like this close to getting proton VPN before this whole thing started. I've been researching for like 6 months to decide which one I was going to switch to. They were on the short list. Bullet dodged.

[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Mullvad

[-] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Ah yeah, located in Sweden, country known for the Pirates Bay scandal that may also soon introduce a law requiring apps to have backdoors to access user's data. Great choice.

[-] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

You owe it to yourself to research past the platitudes. Then you would know that they already got raided and the police left empty handed because there was nothing to find.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago

I'm not on the exit proton bandwagon. All CEOs are awful and I don't have the energy to do the vote-with-your-dollars ethical consumption dance every time we're freshly reminded of that fact. Especially not with the only service out there that packages data integrity, privacy, and ease of use in a complete suite at the level that proton does.

[-] green@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago

I've said this before and I'll say this a million times again, capitalism is simply not viable. The main mechanism to punish bad business practice (using a different business) also hurts the significantly weaker consumer; meaning it will almost never be used properly.

I point this out here because I agree with your stance and cannot stand the "vote with your wallet" nonsense people pretends works.

This makes it really difficult to navigate the privacy space because eventually a cornerstone like Proton is "corrupted" and we have no way to correct it. We seriously need people thinking about solutions to this problem, or we'll be going nowhere fast.

[-] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

Proton is dead

[-] ReadyUser31@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Any alternatives?

[-] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I found this site useful. The list of alternatives is very large.

From my looking around at other info and advice, I'd say that Posteo is the best one if you don't have custom domains; and that mailbox.org or possibly Tuta mail is best if do need a custom domain. Tuta is probably best if you need it to be free.

Another solid option not on that list is fastmail.fm (which is Australian).

[-] Ninmi@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 months ago

You'd think Fedi would be a good place to be active on from a privacy-conscious user-base perspective, but I think this is the second time they leave Fedi? Either way, I guess being on Reddit allows them to moderate all the naysayers away.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

There are a lot of advantages to the fediverse, but privacy really isn’t one of them.

[-] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

Nobody thinks it is, but privacy-interested peope are more likely to congregate on an open and decentralized playform not controlled by the privacy-invading corpo megaghouls

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