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[-] Bwaz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I bet the receiver that had noise figure low enough to detect that signal consumed more than 3nW while doing it.

[-] Yorick@sh.itjust.works 123 points 3 days ago

The magic of a clear line of sight and vacuum for a good ~384'300km!

So should we do low power communications by using the moon as reflector dish?

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 91 points 3 days ago

Also, directional vs omnidirectional antennas.

[-] facepainter@lemm.ee 50 points 3 days ago

This is the most important part.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 22 points 3 days ago

And not encoding any data. Well a laser pulse is kind of datum.

[-] meyotch@slrpnk.net 22 points 3 days ago

One bit! That’s all you get!

[-] Hugin@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago

There was a NSA program that listened to soviet messages by collecting the transmissions that bounced off the moon.

[-] DaveyRocket@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I gotta say, the moon’s really starting to sound like a fucking snitch.

[-] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 27 points 3 days ago

Two thirds of a million kilometres under good conditions and at a precise angle to get a picture of goatse moontooth'd to my phone

Welcome to 2025!

[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I am worried about 2000ms ping

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 8 points 2 days ago

That's what the anti-tachyon modulation circuit is for, to change the time phase and remove most of that lag. Once they're in sync, it's literally real time!

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 3 days ago

the distance is 384400km

That's almost the distance between my bed and the kitchen before my first cup of coffee!

[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 29 points 3 days ago

It's easy, you just need a big antenna, low noise receiver (just cool it) for low bandwidth (keeps noise power low) and no interferers in the same frequency band.

[-] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

That's fair, though I think we also should thank the use of Travelling Wave Tubes (TWTs or 'twits'). These little tubes of witchcraft amplify the transmission signal to make sure we can still hear, say, the Voyager 1 that's currently over 15-billion miles away.

[-] Zwiebel@feddit.org 9 points 3 days ago
[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

Show me a non-directional antenna.

[-] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Omni-directional antennas?

[-] feddylemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Omnidirectional antennas attempt to radiate equally horizontally. An isotropic antenna radiates equally in all directions but is only theoretical. All antennas have some gain.

That being said, there are some antennas that attempt to minimize that gain and be as non-directional as possible while other antennas attempt to maximize that gain and become as directional as possible.

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago
[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Just because you call it non-directional doesn't mean it is. They all have gain compared to a theoretical isotropic antenna.

[-] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago
[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

It's almost too easy

[-] Trollception@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Perfect. Now put those on cell phones and make it fit in your pocket.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago

Technology always gets better with no regard to physical limits.

(People who argue this unironically are a pet peeve of mine. Yes, there are limitations on what's possible.)

[-] neatobuilds@lemmy.today 14 points 2 days ago

I use about 800mW for my fpv drone and if you get a little bit away from yourself and go behind a tree or something you could lose video pretty easily

[-] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Wonder what the latency would be like trying to fly my 3.5" on the moon from earth

Although I suppose the lack of atmosphere would be the bigger issue...

[-] easily3667@lemmus.org 2 points 1 day ago

Well duh is space, you gotta put flames on the side for it to go fast

[-] Morphit@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago

Think of the speeds you could fly at with no drag! I'm so bummed that the Grace Hopper drone didn't get to fly after Intuitive Machines fluffed their second landing. That would have been awesome outreach from NASA.

We want drones on the moon!

[-] lnxtx@feddit.nl 17 points 3 days ago

My Bluetooth buds often get interference - technically 100 mW, distance from my head to a pocket.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 10 points 2 days ago

technically 100 mW

Technically a maximum of 100 mW, but realistically much lower than that.

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

To be fair, that's an insignificant distance for light to travel.

[-] 7eter@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago

Still takes at least 2 seconds for the round trip.

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Well, according to my ex, even 30 or 90 seconds is an interval unworthy of consideration.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
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