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[-] torknorggren@lemm.ee 176 points 1 year ago

"Stadtliche luft macht man frei" is an old German saying. City air makes you free. Life in a small town can be stifling. That close-knit family wants you to be just like them. God forbid you want to do or see anything new. The moving-to-a-big-city trope is as old as cinema, and has strong roots in reality.

[-] jaanus20@lemm.ee 47 points 1 year ago

In the middle-ages in at least in what is now Estonia, if you ecaped to the city and lived there for a year and a day you would be set free from your serfdom. "Linna õhk teeb vabaks" same frase was used for that.

[-] HerrVorragend@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

"Stadtluft macht frei" but yes, everything else is spot on.

[-] the_third@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago

The background back then was, that citizens of towns weren't owned by anyone in the feudal system unlike people that lived outside the walls.

[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

There were free peasants outside cities. The specific reason is a serf could run away to a city, and if he managed to stay long enough, he stopped being a serf and became a citizen.

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I agree with the sentiment, but Germans have a horrible track record on what makes you free.

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 156 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mr green text has no idea what he's talking about.

I grew up on a farm you're telling me that was an idyllic life?

Farmwork is stupidly long days in awful weather, it's either hot, or freezing cold, or raining, or snowing. The pay is effectively abysmal and makes you wish you worked in Starbucks on minimum wage because that would be an improvement. You have all this necessary equipment you've had to "buy", which despite costing more than most houses is about as reliable as a Soviet era tank.

And that's just growing props if you're mad enough to also raise cattle then it's even worse because you've got all them to deal with and sheep in particular are more suicidal than a depressed lemming.

But hey, you get a nice view.

[-] AlexisLuna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, at least a soviet tank can be repaired with a hammer, unlike a deere

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[-] Getawombatupya@aussie.zone 25 points 1 year ago

There's a reason the kids aren't taking over the farm. Not to mention that a 50 acre returned soldier lot can't provide for a family of six anymore.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well it isn't subsistence farming by any stretch of the imagination it's full on industrial farming.

Most farms these days, at least crop farms, grow only two or three different crops. Mostly dictated by what will fetch the best price and what is currently being subsidised by the government. Often times you will find that farms are not growing any food stuffs at all.

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Wait, you got paid? I just got grabbed by the neighbor whenever he needed another hand

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because movies like that belong on the “Lifetime TV” or “Hallmark Channel”. It’s been done. Maybe yet another “Can’t fix stupid” reductionist country wisdom beats city slicker smarts? Or make fun of city people who don’t know how to ride a horse?

That, or nobody wants to watch movies with people sitting around bonfires drinking cheap beer on your truck tailgate.

I grew up rural. It isn’t that exciting.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I grew up in a place that had more cows than people. Now it has more heroin than cows. I'd be dead if I didn't get out. Real rural life where you're working for a living eats people alive. What you want isn't that, it's this ideal where everything is simple and paid for and you're distant from the things you don't like about actually living in a community with people but all the amenities of that life are still immediately to hand. When someone you love dies because it takes an hour for an ambulance to get to your house, that is the rural life that's actually out there to be had.

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[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago

Rural living has its charm sometimes, but I'm so fucking tired of driving 45 minutes to eat taco bell.

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[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 year ago

Eh, my friend actually did that. I assumed that she had some sort of awful family she was running from, but actually they're nice and she visits them on holidays. She just wanted to be in the big city so much that she was willing to rent a single room in a bad neighborhood and constantly look for odd jobs rather than live out in the countryside with her parents.

[-] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 year ago

I understand the draw. It's boring in the country for most young people. At least there's always something to do or something to see in the city.

I was a city kid that ended up in the country, and it's like a different world. It took me years to slow down to country pace. Now that I'm older I enjoy it, but it took a lot of getting used to. There's things I miss about the city but I prefer being out here where I never have to lock things up for fear of it getting stolen, cleaner air, and all the other issues city life brings.

The biggest issue I have out here is keeping the deer out of my garden.

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[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Another issue is that LBGT people often have to flee hostile rural towns for a city where they can be free to live. We're currently in the middle of a refuge crisis as trans people flee red States for mostly cities (small towns in blue states can be scary too) in places like Minnesota.

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

I mean I can imagine the dating prospects are really terrible in the countryside, noone talked about that yet.

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[-] RadButNotAChad@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

It's a sense of adventure and wanting to try new things. I grew up in a very small town, lived in a couple large cities (not Chicago, but you would get robbed every once in awhile and hear some gun shots). I currently live in a medium size city a few states from where I grew up and it's depressing to me than going home and seeing the people who have never even tried anything else.

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[-] Hubi@feddit.de 50 points 1 year ago

Anon has never heard of the term "target audience".

[-] TheMauveAvenger@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

See "every Hallmark TV movie". High powered female executive from the big city ends up in a rural town because of family/friend/work, falls in love with local stud and small town life, quits and moves to small town, cut and wrap.

This is 3/4 of their production and it works because it draws in the urban women who actually dream of this and the rural women who want to believe they're living a dream and all city folk are jealous of them.

[-] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

She had 275 siblings. Getting away from that farm was the smartest thing she's ever done. She has no hope of any kind of meaningful inheritance. I'm honestly surprised a farm could support that many rabbits and still turn any kind of profit. It must have been subsidized out the wazoo. The last thing it needs is her hanging around, getting hitched to some redneck just out of high school, popping out a couple hundred hungry mouths of her own right before the inevitable foreclosure and declaration of martial law as the farmpocalypse occurs when her parents finally kick it and the tens-of-thousands of children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren raze the countryside in search of fodder. Just ask an Australian what rabbits are capable of.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 17 points 1 year ago

Also the explicit reason stated that she went away was because of basic empathy for others and duty to others for a positive impact on the world. I just realized that the entire plot of zootopia would be lost on a lot of people purely out of apathy.

[-] Dr_Fetus_Jackson@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Being clear, living in the sticks for 42 years of my life wasn't ideal. That is unless you like living in a dry county surrounded by narrow-minded, puritanical shitbirds that were working OT to make sure people either went to church, or publicly shame them if they weren't. There was also the in crowds that held people back or elevated them, depending on which family you were related to.

I do miss the hunting and fishing, though I can head back any time I want to do that. Meanwhile, I'll stay where I can maintain my chill by having copious resources readily available when I want them, and enough anonymity to enjoy them without anyone asking me where I was last Sunday.

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[-] trailing9@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago

Why do we accept that urban life is worse than rural life?

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago

Cars ruin cities. There's more we can do to make cities better but that's the big one

[-] wombatula@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

I mean, do you think cars aren't a thing in rural areas or something? You think us country bumpkins are riding our horses around?

[-] phundrak@programming.dev 19 points 1 year ago

No, but it's much, much easier to get rid of them in cities where they can be replaced by subways, tramways, buses, bikes, and the like.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

All of which make for a way better quality of life than car hell. If people wern't sitting in unbearable traffic all day complaints about urban living would be far less common

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[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

There's enough space out there it's not an issue. Cars are a rural technology we bulldozed half the city to makebroom for and then complained about not enough parking and too much traffic

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[-] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 year ago

Ignorance plain and simple. Most people nowadays live their whole lives in big urban centers, they have an idealistic view of country life and take the conveniences of city life for granted. City life can suck, I won't deny it, but living in bumfuck nowhere also has it's major drawbacks.

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[-] spauldo@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

In some cases it is.

I live on an acre about 100 miles from the nearest sizable city. I've got a workshop, pecan trees, a pool, a smoker trailer, a bonfire pit fifteen feet across, and lots of peace and quiet. No HOA, no city ordinances, no traffic, and the only loud neighbor is a donkey that brays a few times a day.

That would cost me at least half a million in the city. The little apartment I used to rent Pre-COVID cost me nearly as much as the house payment I pay now.

Is it for everyone? No. There's no excitement, limited shopping and dining options, and anywhere I want to go is at least a twenty minute drive. But it's great for me. My job sends me all over the world so I get my fill of the city while living in hotels. Going home is a breath of fresh air.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 21 points 1 year ago

The key is to live in the countryside but not actually work in the countryside.

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[-] ThePac@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because these characters are usually young and cities are exciting. Wanting to get away from people tends to happen later in life. That said, I know plenty of people in their 40s/50s who love city living.

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[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

Lives my ideal life

Ftfy

[-] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

She wasn't bigoted enough to become a small town cop so she had to become a city cop.

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[-] erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

I've lived in high urban, low urban, suburban, and rural. They all have pros and cons.

If you're dating tho, the city is way better, but good luck finding practice space - if you're into that sort of thing.

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[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Her dream was to be a cop. Having it be a low paying career, living in a small apartment, and being away from friends and family are things we call sacrifices.

[-] UnhingedFridge@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

You know, after leaving the country: I really don't mind losing connection with my racist family members joking about how "dropped nickels stay on the ground since picking them up is worthless."

And I certainly don't miss them and others bashing my gay friends for being different.

The open country has a lot of potential, but unfortunately a lot of people outside of the metropolitan are dumb and shit and stay prejudiced out of comfort and having no reason to learn.

[-] Rockyrikoko@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Into the Wild was kind of the inverse of this. Obviously it didn't work out for the guy, but why does it have to? He had an idea he wanted to achieve and followed his dreams

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[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Because those "loving family members" IRL are usually nosy dickheads, and there is no dating scene in small towns. So it's either marry your cousin, or move to the city.

Not to mention job opportunities...

[-] sachamato@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I my experience I am seeing how the trend goes on the other direction and more and more people around me actively choose to leave the city and go to rural areas. I think that this tends to happens around the mid 30s,!not exclusively, and might be also related to an specific location. I am central Europe based. It's just my personal experience tough.

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[-] AEGIS2317@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

I personally think a good life should have both: A place where you can rest, be free and enjoy the beauty of nature to the fullest and a place that makes you realize how fucked up society is and how important it is to fight the good fight.

I pity people who never make it out of the city. And i think people hiding away from the harsh reality of cities are being selfish. but not in an evil way.

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