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Yes, Canada has a legal path to E.U. membership – but would it want this?

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[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 46 points 1 week ago

I didn't have this on my bingo card when the year started, but hey, I'm all for it. Come join us, be one of us. We are all friends, except Hungary. They should just throw their government out.

Putin and Trump want to split the EU and destroy our unity. Let's make it bigger and better than they ever expected.

[-] thehowlingnorth@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 week ago

I'm in. I'll miss the Loonie, but Europe's looking pretty good these days.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

We can still call the coins loonies and toonies, why not?

[-] Rogue@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

Pretty sure you get to choose the illustrations on Euros issued in your country so you can continue the theme. Then as it gets mixed in with currency elsewhere the terminology might catch on in continental Europe

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

Wouldn't it be awesome to pay in Europe with toonies?

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Using the euro is optional! Many countries kept their own currency.

[-] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Are there any non-founding-member countries that kept their own currency?

I believe it's mandatory for all new members.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 week ago

Yes, it is. You can delay it indefinitely, though, and Romania is still on the leu. Other members have blocked them from making the switch, even.

[-] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 9 points 1 week ago

Same. I wouldn't mind switching to the Euro, but our coins are really cool and nostalgic for me. It would be nice if there were a way to keep them.

[-] shrugs@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

UK did exactly that. They never swapped their pound with euro. I'm all for it!

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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 week ago

I mean, you get to put whatever on the reverse of the coins.

[-] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 1 week ago

Well that's cool, then. I don't know anything about EU process or regulations.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

The denominations are fixed: 0.01, 0.02, 0.05, 0.10, 0.20, 0.50, 1 and 2 for coins, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200 and 500 for bills (although I've read the 200 and 500 had ceased production).

Every country can mint coins with bespoke faces, even limites editions, for commemorations and special events. Spain uses the Sagrada Familia for their lower denomination coins and the king's image for higher, Greece reproduced an ancient dracma in their 1€ coin, Italy as used the Vitruvian Man, France has the Republic in their coins, etc. Enough room for each country to express their roots and values.

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[-] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago
[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Norweigians are just being weird because of their oil riches. They fear (perhaps legitimately) that we'll tax those off of them.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 20 points 1 week ago

The EU requires unanimity among its existing members in order to add a new member. It's not impossible, but getting Orban to agree to it is, I think, a much bigger stumbling block than the article implies. Any "concessions" Orban demands to accept Canada would themselves have to be unanimously agreed to by existing members.

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 1 week ago

We should just create EU 2.0 without them, with proper rules to handle that bullshit in the future, and... I don't know, Blackjack maybe.

Not an expert on this, but if Orban is really stubborn about it - and flaunts EU rules generally - couldn't the suspension clause be used on Hungary? If I'm understanding it right, once voting rights are suspended, they'd no longer have a say in objecting to Canada's accession during the duration of the suspension.

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/EN/legal-content/glossary/suspension-clause-article-7-of-the-treaty-on-european-union.html

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 week ago

I have no clue, but I hope they figure it out soon. This is extremely annoying.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It already probably would have been for all the other nefarious shit they do, except they've had a sympathetic fashy government somewhere else in the EU to block it. It was Poland, now it's IIRC Slovakia.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 week ago

I mean, we're already talking about a NATO 2.0, aren't we?

Of course, that's their decision to ultimately make.

[-] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

With blackjack and hookers

[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

With blackjack and Canadian hookers

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They are all bearded lumberjacks.

Forgot to add this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfRdur8GLBM

[-] NewDay@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

Orban has to vote for Canada. Why? His regime will be over in 14 days if he does not get the EU money. Orban's biggest rival is in first place according to the latest polls. If he wants to be re-elected, he cannot sabotage EU policy.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 week ago

Can the EU expel member states?

My understanding is no - but a long term suspension might be better anyways, since the effect seems to be that the member state is still forced to comply with EU rules without getting any of the benefits like voting.

That being said, I wonder if they could suspend Hungary, then have the rest vote and approve an amendment to allow expulsion - which would pass unamiously since Hungary can't vote against it as it's suspended, and then they expel Hungary under the new amendment...?

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago

It may not be an issue anymore (I don't recall hearing about it in a while, but I'm not sure how long), but it used to be the case that there were two countries that were often regarded as EU troublemakers, and by working together, even though they didn't agree much of the time, they could veto any attempts to undermine each other. I think the other troublemaker was Poland, and I think it may have been before their last election, but that's a lot of unsurity.

Suspension, fwiw, requires unanimity apart from the country in question, so one single dissenter can prevent it.

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[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

The EU requires unanimity among its existing members

Wow, that's a rule that doesn't scale well. Especially since apparently expelling a country requires unanimity too.

[-] Greg@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

I want all of the consumer protections EU citizens get like being able to side load apps on iPhones etc.

[-] 60d@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Some privacy laws would be nice, eh?

[-] ninthant@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago

At the very least, joining with their economic standards is a path we should move towards.

[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

Absolutely. This would be such a boon to both Canada and the EU

[-] finalaccountforreal@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

Yeah let's do it

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sure thing! I hope they drag their old masters in the UK along with them when they arrive. This will stretch the meaning of "Europe" a tad though.

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[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago
[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

I don't know if full membership is reasonable. Full membership would mean complying with all EU standards, those standards include electrical standards, and Canadian and European electrical standards are completely different. They run on 240V at 50Hz and Canada runs on 120V at 60Hz.

But, a closer alignment would be a great idea. Make it easier for workers to move between the EU and Canada. Harmonize some laws (for example, bring EU privacy and data protection laws to Canada). Require Canada to have more efficient vehicles and appliances.

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[-] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

I'm not in favor of this.

We don't need more super-national institution telling us what to do. I'm on board for good relations and for taking ideas from them, but we need to stop giving power to distant institutions that aren't truly invested in our success.

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