Dems push AOC to primary Schumer, furious over his support of Republican spending bill: report (nypost.com)

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Furious Democrats are pushing “Squad” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) to primary Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) after he agreed to vote with Republicans to avoid a government shutdown, according to reports.

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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

AOC won surprisingly at her first foray into politics when she was up against an established monied opponent. If she primaries against Schumer, she might just be able pull it off again. Remember that even some MAGA appreciates her anti-oligarchy run, which in turn makes her look authentic for the masses. The look for authenticity in a politician is what many affluent people-- both liberals and conservatives alike-- do not understand of the Trump phenomenon, or even the popularity of Sanders, Walz and AOC.

[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck that...AOC and the rest of the progressives need to make their own party. The Ds are done.

[-] xyzzy@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

The only thing you need to remember is that political parties, by law, cannot restrict candidates from running under that party banner. Superdelegates are how the Democratic Party leadership attempts to skirt this and put its thumb on the scale, but after the Clinton-Sanders debacle, their power was diminished.

An ideological takeover of the party is possible. It just requires progressive candidates to get elected.

[-] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Nah, fuck that IMO, even the name itself is beyond saving

A new actually progressive party that brings about a new system is the ideal path forward at this point if the goal is to meet the needs of the people and actually give everyone a chance, that's my current opinion on the topic from my current perspective (saying this because things are changing quick so idk WTF is going to happen in reality)

[-] Kage520@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Never going to happen until most of all states have ranked choice or star voting. First past the post is basically designed for only 2 parties.

[-] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Okay, if you believe that's the way forward, what are you doing to further that goal? Or what do you believe are steps that folks can realistically take to bring that about as fast as possible, so as to prevent as much harm as possible?

[-] Kage520@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

That's a good point. I have not been very politically active besides encouraging friends and family to vote. But I think a campaign for signatures for Star or Ranked Choice voting would be the first step, at least here in Florida since enough signatures should put it on the ballot. But Desantis is pretty good at squashing this stuff since it requires 60% approval. Not sure the method for other states.

[-] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Not going to happen. You need to take over the Democratic Party with progressives, same way the fascists took over the Republican party

[-] GoatTnder@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

As long as the US uses a first-past-the-post system, third parties will not be viable. The only REAL way to go forward is to take over the Democratic party and push it left. We'll see how it goes...

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

The US has always had two parties, but it hasn't always had the same two parties. Creating a new party that's successful is entirely possible, if doing so completely destroys one of the existing parties in the process.

For example, the Whig Party emerged after the Federalist Party collapsed, and the Republican Party emerged after the Whig Party collapsed.

[-] lorski@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 weeks ago

they need to take over the party!

[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

If they take over the party, you have to shoulder the responsibility of everything the parties done in the past. It's easier to just start a new one, because I don't fucking feel like a democrat anymore. I'm tired of calling myself a democrat. Because democrats are spineless feckless fucking morons that spend tens of millions of dollars after they lose an election to find out why, and then do absolutely fucking nothing with that information.

The sheer level of idiocy and hubris required to spend that kind of money to find out a way to fix a problem, and when you have that information do nothing with it is beyond anything the forefathers could have ever fucking dreamed of.

We need to take responsibility, because we broke democracy. The two party system doesn't work anymore. I want out.

[-] lorski@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

i hear you, the usa is not going to have a 3 party system anytime soon, we need to get out of what appears to be a one party system first. we are not europe.

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

100% Democrats don't represent me; I am not a Corporation.

I would like a political party that represents actual constituents, and the Dems ain't ever giving up their corp gravy train.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

We need this, the GOP must be destroyed by a strong Democratic party that doesn't have the work ethic of a Uvalde cop.

[-] HelterSkeletor@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Drop the word "Democratic" from that sentence and you're correct.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Third parties aren't viable

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Third parties are not viable in the US Two Party System, it's Dems or bust

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

This isn't a two party system. Both parties are owned by the same group of billionaires.

That's an illusion of choice no different than picking from among the companies owned by Nestle.

[-] HelterSkeletor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

People seem content with billionaires controlling our ~~political system~~ life I guess.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

I would like to vote for a Progressive party. Sanders and friends for every ballot.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

.ml right again.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like a good plan to me. AOC needs to head the DNC.

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Or the DNC needs to be thrown to the wolves.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I've never felt more defeated electorally than by the current crop of Democrats.

Losing to Hillary in the '16 primaries was rough, but it wasn't even close to enough to get me or almost anyone to drop out of politics. At least the 2020 ratfucking gave us the platform. Losing to Trump, now twice, also pretty rough.

But what Schumer and Jefferies are doing now, its more defeating than anything before. Its not just a weak resistance, or a paper or performative resistance: its anti-resistance. What Schumer and Jefferies have done, through their insescent weakness, will be long term more damaging to the party than anything that Kamala or Biden did or didn't do, in-spite of their own obvious and utter failings.

News flash: The Democrats are throwing the mid-terms. Now. Right fucking now and right in front of you. The blew the fucking election, and now they are putting in double time to blow the next one.

And you have 0 control or leverage to be able to stop them because they don't want you in their party. They don't want to share power with brown people. They don't want to share power with queer people. They don't want to share power with immigrants or atheists or scientists or anyone who isn't an ivy league, beltway insider. They will not be giving over the reigns to the party, no matter how pretty-please with sprinkles on top you ask them. They don't want to share power with the tent-poles of the big tent party. You are a consumable resource to them. They're going to throw you and the entire Democratic project under the bus to preserve their posture in a kabuki power game with themselves.

There is no path to salvation through the Democratic party. To quote Carlin: Its a BIG club, and you ain't in it.

There is no path to resistance through the Democratic party. The way things have been done in the past hasn't worked. You don't have decades to find your footing and figure out how to stop this.

You have days, weeks.

[-] Gigasser@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck giving up or defeatism though. Lifetime Opposition just because of spite is the way for me.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Seems more like a call for a Democratic version of the GOP's Tea Party than "giving up" or "defeatism".

Call it the "Guillotine Party" for the applicable social precedent.

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