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submitted 1 week ago by GreyAlien@lemm.ee to c/world@lemmy.world

U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling.

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[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 week ago

Is it weird that the most shocking thing to me in all of this is that they all act like facebook boomers even in "private" operational meetings? "I will say a prayer for victory," coming out of fucking vance's fingers (and then prayer emojis from everyone else) is just fucking insanity. Like, I expected that behind closed doors they all call it nonsense and act like 4chan dipshits.

The mass leaking of operational information is totally to be expected. Just look at russians and Telegram.

[-] silverhand@reddthat.com 18 points 1 week ago

...Jesus f*kin Christ. What the actual fuck

[-] Nikelui@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

A few interesting snippets from the conversation.

nobody knows who the Houthis are – which is why we would need to stay focused on: 1) Biden failed & 2) Iran funded.

Always blame the previous admin.

But, we can easily pause. And if we do, I will do all we can to enforce 100% OPSEC”—operations security.

[...]

In his text detailing aspects of the forthcoming attack on Houthi targets, Hegseth wrote to the group—which, at the time, included me—“We are currently clean on OPSEC.”

LoL, the irony.

VP: I fully share your loathing of European free-loading. It’s PATHETIC.

Well, fuck you too Vice President JD Vance and US Secretary of defence Pete Hegseth.

[-] sittinonatoilet@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The Hegseth message goes on to state, “Waiting a few weeks or a month does not fundamentally change the calculus. 2 immediate risks on waiting: 1) this leaks, and we look indecisive;

Lolz

Edit: from the same section

And if we do, I will do all we can to enforce 100% OPSEC”—operations security.

[-] uservoid1@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

This is so fucked up in OPSEC terms, but reading everyday news and I'm totally not surprised. If an adversary intercept such messaging before operation you can get a new batch of "losers" arriving home in bodybags.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The information contained in them, if they had been read by an adversary of the United States, could conceivably have been used to harm American military and intelligence personnel

So you are telling me you could DEFINITELY have saved innocent lives in Yemen but chose not to because there could have "CONCEIVABLY" been harm done to US military personnel?

“I will say a prayer for victory,” Vance wrote. (Two other users subsequently added prayer emoji.)

Oof. Death cult through and through.

[-] Nikelui@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

As much as this entire clown show raises ethical questions, I don't think anyone would risk to be charged of treason (or "domestic terrorism", that seems to be popular right now) on the basis of a shady group chat.

[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

That was a wild read and in no way shocking that they have been and will continue to do this.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

And if we do, I will do all we can to enforce 100% OPSEC

Jesus Christ.

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Remember that time when Donald Trump said Canada should be booted from Five Eyes, and are a National Security Threat^TM^?

This is how the self-declared protector and benefactor of the “free” world treats the actual lives of billions right now. After he fucking had classified documents in his bathroom secrets for sale operation.

That’s boldly generous as “strike two” in American parlance. But these days they’ll just carry right on past three to ~~fuck the libs~~ because Elon paid for your brain cells to kill the woke mind virus. Right past strike three and nobody will even remember all the kids that died while they polish their weapons and store them for when an immigrant or trans person or coloured person knocks on the wrong door.

Yet still so many expect consideration that they didn’t vote for him. No. Americans are traitors to us all. The inaction at this point is acceptance. Especially considering your history.

These people want war. Americans seem to as well. It’s idiocy not to see it coming. The old whites get to die playing their game of zeroes and Elon gets to see if he can fix the climate with cataclysm while he tries for Mars.

You put us all at existential risk.

I, however, knew two hours before the first bombs exploded that the attack might be coming. The reason I knew this is that Pete Hegseth, the secretary of defense, had texted me the war plan at 11:44 a.m. The plan included precise information about weapons packages, targets, and timing.

This is going to require some explaining.

[-] TingoTenga@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This story is so weird that I take it with grain of salt.

Top level personnel added him to a chat. He wrote a piece that otherwise makes them look good (at least mildly competent). Then left the chat.

That's a fair cop, but historically the Nazis of yesteryear were actually a lot more disorganized and stupid than we give them credit for, too. I mean, the entire "Master Race" thing is rooted in a deep misunderstanding about how genetics and evolution works on a functional level. Like, it's literally a stupid position to have if you understand actual genetics. They were very stupid in other areas as well.

So, while I understand the hesitance to take it as gospel (heh) I think that history shows us it's quite likely that they really are just this stupid. Chaos is a ladder and all that.

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