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Hi all! This is an alt for anonymity. Please be gentle, this is a hard topic for me to discuss.

I'm a progressive United States citizen who is looking to get out. I'm of Italian descent so I'm working on getting Italian citizenship through jure sanguinis, but it's going to take some time, if it works at all (gotta substantiate some relations) and won't extend to my husband until he completes a citizenship test, which he can do after living in Italy for two years.

Here's my big question: is moving to Italy even a good idea?

I know there's a significant element of fascism there, but that seems to be the case to varying extents throughout Europe. I've visited a few times as a tourist and everyone was very kind. I also have a US cousin that lives there as a permanent resident near Napoli and she is very encouraging, saying people will be welcoming. We don't want much, just to make a living and maybe have a kid.

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[-] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago

Lol my country is falling to the fascists. I may as well move to a country that has already fallen to the fascists.

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[-] wewbull@feddit.uk -3 points 1 week ago

You emigrate to Italy and then you'll be an immigrant from the US. One's a verb, the other a noun.

Once you have Italian citizenship you'll be able to live an work anywhere in the Schengen region. So a lot more options once you're in.

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[-] Disinformation_Bot@lemm.ee -4 points 1 week ago

Unless you're a directly targeted demographic, leaving the US is the coward's way out. You abandon everyone who doesn't have the means to flee. Stay and fight for something. Running away from problems doesn't solve them, it just cedes power to the problem.

[-] AHamSandwich@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

TIL: disinformation is a synonym for "presumptuous asshole". Who knew?

[-] Disinformation_Bot@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago

TIL a ham sandwich is a synonym for cowardly pig. But we both knew that already.

[-] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You don't know anything about this person or their personal circumstances. The only thing I know about you, based on these two comments, is you're a divisive moron.

Dogmatic idiots like you made your country the shit hole it is today. Fuck off, blue MAGA.

[-] Disinformation_Bot@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I qualified my first comment based on that exact criticism. Now what I know about you is that you jump into a conversation without availing yourself of what's been said.

Run away if you want. By all means save yourself. It doesn't change the fact that the act is directly harmful to solving the problems you're running from, and you need to be honest with yourself about that. Cowards like you are why this country is where it is today.

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