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[-] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 weeks ago

I have a mac I use for some specific tasks. I’ll agree the Apple is, ehh, Apple.

But mounting network fileshares is dead simple. My SMB share pops right up, authentication works fine, the user interface for it is fine. If I wanted to use it remotely, I’d just export it over my tailnet.

’sshfs’ is good for short stints of brief use, but ultimately it breaks on a protocol level as soon as your socket dies, on any OS.

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[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 2 weeks ago

Love how this meme once again shows a Linux terminal command (that only works on specific distros) instead of what most users would want (which would work on almost any user-friendly distro), the button in the File Manager to add the network share to your left sidebar.

Somehow people still believe CLI commands are superior, meanwhile people who just want to get Linux-unrelated shit done (that isn't IT-related either) don't understand what exactly happens here and won't be able to permanently add the share to their file browser this way. Y'know, the way most people would use it in their daily workflow.

Where Apple fails in proper software integration, Linux fails in feature communication. Instead of properly integrating features (Apple) or providing/focusing on doing things intuitively and accessibly (Linux), both want the user to start thinking their way. And I fucking hate it, it prevents Linux from becoming more popular.

[-] Souroak@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 2 weeks ago

My biggest problem with Linux is that there are 8 ways to solve any problem. Some of these are distro specific, and all of them are THE definitive way to do it depending on who you ask. This comes up for me most when I want to make a change to something or do it again on a new machine.

For adding another network drive, for example I think oh it's called samba right and open the terminal and type in samba help. The response is: command not found do you want to install "samba-dc"? Okay so not samba. Oh that's right I edited a file. Now was it smb.conf? No wait maybe it was fstab.

It is getting easier as I get more familiar, but I have to wrap my head around every new thing that I want to do. It's no wonder people don't have the patience.

[-] AugustWest@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

I know this is just an example, but it is kind of funny.

User somehow sets up SMB shares on their network. Then is confused by the client?

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[-] banghida@lemm.ee 15 points 2 weeks ago

You can click your way to the same feature in Nautilus. No need to even see a terminal.

[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah. You also can edit mounts via GUI tools instead of manipulating fstab. You can configure shares without opening smb.conf. You can do all these things, now if we would just communicate how user-friendly a Linux distro can be that would be nice. Right now it's still a wild goose chase to find instructions how to do things graphically and therefore accessibly and more safely, as every search first and foremost results in tons of (often time different) CLI commands. And there are too many in the community who counter with disabling or elitist bullshit, as if someone who isn't into RTFM for every click somehow can't be allowed to flip a switch. It's exhausting to fight against these sentiments, especially now where apparently a lot of people suddenly realize that Microsoft and Apple might not be the best idea to trust. People who just want use and trust their computer.

[-] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm with you on this. I think a youtube / peertube channel providing GUI only tutorials could do quite well and would help to further the linux cause

I'm too lazy do it, but someone should

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

Somehow people still believe CLI commands are superior

Something that only a pure enduser would say.

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well, GUIs are even more distro-specific, so it's either generalisability or user-friendliness. It doesn't mean that guis don't have the option.

[-] AugustWest@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

this meme once again shows a Linux terminal command (that only works on specific distros)

sshfs only works on certain distros? Oh you mean the apt install part.

the button in the File Manager to add the network share to your left sidebar.

I just browse to the network location I want and right click on the view in the file manager and select "add to places". It will be there on the sidebar until I remove it. Yes it is there after a reboot.

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[-] green@feddit.nl 23 points 2 weeks ago

Wouldn't you just use AFS, CEPH, NFS, or 9p?

I really don't want to be that guy, but isn't SSHFS (FUSE) actually a terrible option when compared to an actual file-system? MacOS isn't really missing out on much there.

The most painful part of MacOS (which makes it downright unbearable for me) is that system configuration files are XML. It's an absolute nightmare.

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 weeks ago

SSHFS is secure and works well over the internet. If you only want to access it over the LAN, then NFS is a much better option.

[-] synestine@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

SSHFS uses SFTP which is built into SSH, so no server to install. Its not as fast as NFS, but requires no setup. For something small like a home lab, that is a big advantage.

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[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 weeks ago

I have this problem with Android. Google has turned the filesystem into unusable garbage, so you're lucky, if you can launch a gallery app with a file path and it allows you to actually go through the images in that folder.

And of course, that's with a local file path, so the situation is completely hopeless when your images are on a network share. Unless the gallery app itself implements the network protocol, you're out of luck.
Wanna guess how often that happens? Yeah, it simply doesn't. Even if it's theoretically just a library, when you build it into the gallery app, that dev has to continually maintain and test it.

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

I love how android uses ext internally, but doesn't support ext drives natively.

[-] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

I can't even mount my Android storage to my computer without some unreliable MTP FUSE program.

[-] mittorn@masturbated.one 3 points 2 weeks ago

@Ephera @renzev android fs is just sucks. You cannot share folder with other app because of gargage sepolicy. You can share folder descriptor to bypass mount namespace, but selinux will prevent accessing it until set to permissive mode. And android does not provide way to patch sepolicy for user.

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[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

I just wish both these platforms would get some modern remote desktop support built in. Remoting into Mac/linux vs Windows desktops feels like dealing with tech from completely different time periods.

Thank god most of my Linux remote work is ssh on the cli.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago

You.. want remote desktop on kernel level?

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[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 15 points 2 weeks ago

Running both Linux and macOS on a daily basis… They’re both completely competent, and have basically the same amount of rough edges once you dig in and get your hands dirty. If you find one of them impossibly difficult, it’s a skill issue.

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[-] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

What are you talking about? SMB on MacOS is crazy reliable!

[-] beirdobaggins@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

The meme is talking about sshfs.

For smb, the share would need to be created first.

Sshfs is pretty nice because it will give you access to all of the files that on the server that you have permissions to access.

[-] miellaby@jlai.lu 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The post refers SSHFS which is based upon FUSE, a very neat technology in the Linux kernel which allows a non-kernel develloper - says a python developer-to turn anything into a hierarchy of files and folders, that you can access and modify with your regular local applications. When I says anything, I'm dead serious, FUSE may turn the whole internet into a fake browsable tree of local files on your system. On windows, you have to write a fake disk driver to mimic a fraction of the feature. I don't know ios but I guess Apple wouldn't never allow such a wizardry by design.

[-] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

Only tangentially related, since I don't think NBD uses FUSE, but may I present Harder Drive

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[-] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

I use both of these systems daily. They have some issues but are just fine for me. Honestly, they are just opposite extremes and I repeat that. They each chose a side.

Whereas windows makes me scream. It’s absolute horseshit that pretends to claim some middle ground that makes no one happy.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago
[-] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

I use nfs shares for this use case.

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[-] Matriks404@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

TIL about sshfs and life got a little bit nicer

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, if your server is using samba to share: net use * \homeserver\share {password} /user: {username} /persistent: yes /savecreds

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Windows terminal commands are an abomination before the site of the LORD.

They were wise enough to include a mount alias though so if you pretend you're on Linux it'll work well enough.

No idea if it supports SMB or ssh though, but it works with NFS

mount -t nfs3 server:/srv/nfs/exporteddir E:

Mounts an NFS export to the E drive.

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[-] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ah yes... secure shell for fuck's sake

[-] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

macFUSE

I don’t know what you expected, that is a huge hack.

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