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[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago

Damn, these crabs decimated the local clan population. Killing off 90% of the population in a few years is crazy.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 year ago

Yeah it sucks. But they are so tasty. Italians just gotta learn how to take advantage of them.

[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

I'm not so much concerned about how the Italians feel about this, but more so the implications of yet another human caused extinction. What will be the knock-on effects of the decline of this species?

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure but I’m saying harnessing then as a fishery is the best way to control or reverse this problem.

Unfortunately, a 90% decline is not that unusual compared to many other ecosystems. While the effects in aggregate will be huge, the effects of one species will not be that notable relative to the rest of our environmental catastrophe.

[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Take the Korean crabs and put them in Italian waters?

[-] Vode_An@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

The invasive lion fish off the American east coast is fucking delicious. By far one of the tastiest fish.

They stay deep enough it’s hard to get them in large enough numbers, but it’s easy to believe eating away the problem would work if that gets solved.

Crab harvesting is a solved problem, so you’re probably onto something in this case.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Just give Koreans work permits and an infinite quota, with a $100 fine per native crab not released. Problem will be solved or at least kept under control real quick...

[-] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

They're delicious but they also have venomous spines all over them that are extremely painful.

It make fishing them quite dangerous unfortunately.

[-] Vode_An@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Cleaning and cooking is more difficult as well. Worth the effort though. You could honestly serve lionfish the same way a steakhouse does steak.

[-] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I haven't tasted them yet but, apparently, compared to the Mediterranean crabs they are kind of "meehhhh". That's why they are trying to export them in Korea, in Italy customers prefer the Mediterranean ones because more tasty and meaty.

They hope that Korea export could pay part of the large scale fishing needed to control these crabs

[-] telllos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, you need to know how to cook them. Korean ferment them in Soy sauce. It's crazy delicious.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

I’ve never had Mediterranean crabs but this is a bit surprising if true. Of the various North American crab species, this one has the best flavor I think.

[-] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You should take an holiday to some Mediterranean locations, top notch sea food!

Apparently it is good but with a slight metallic taste and not meaty. Italians are very "detailed" when it comes to food. I haven't tasted it yet unfortunately.

Government just need to find some additional market to fund some of the the fishing, because it is afraid the internal market might not be sufficient

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

It’s possible they taste different since they have a different diet but I definitely would not describe ours that way. Very meaty and with no metallic taste that I’ve noticed.

I’d love to visit the Mediterranean someday but probably not soon. Right now I’m trying to minimize the amount of oil I burn so until there’s another way it might not be feasible.

[-] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Might also be a different variety... They came in some container ship, but it is unclear from where. No idea tbf ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Well the article says it’s the Atlantic blue crab which is the one I’m talking about. There is only one type under that name to my knowledge. If they do taste different it must be down to the different diet or environment. That or our palettes are somehow different.

What species of crabs do the locals normally eat?

[-] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I am pretty sure it is also about "cultural" taste. Italians have more types of pasta, cheese and wines of any country in the world and they can tell the difference of each of them at a extreme level. Italians are pretty pedantic on food

I am not an expert in crabs, no idea of the names of common mediterranean crabs, sorry. But searching on Wikipedia one apparently is called in English Maja squinado, another Mediterranean green crab...

As said, I might be wrong with these names

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

Well if it is the same or similar to what we call the European green crab here, that would be quite interesting! That species has invaded North America but is widely seen as unsuitable for eating here, while the blue crab is highly over-harvested for its delectable flavor. I suppose there is no accounting for taste but the rest of the world has a great appreciation for these so I think Italy can come around to it.

For a perspective from this side of the Atlantic, see: https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/community/climate-environment/blue-crab-italy-invasion-M2IX2UR6AFD23AIP3UJNUMQEDU/

[-] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like this :D

And, in news that seems entirely unbelievable in Maryland, where a bushel of steamed crabs is an expensive treat and crab cakes are on just about every restaurant menu, Italians have little desire to eat their way out of this crab conundrum.

We will eventually eat them, we just need to understand how to properly make a pasta sauce out of it! Already some people are eating them, we need time to refine the recipes to become more popular :D

[-] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] ZetaLightning94@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Put it on anything.. its the maryland way

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

My peer was just telling me how amazing crab pizza with white sauce is.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Never tried that but it sounds tasty!

[-] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If I remember correctly our country's shakeys has a KANI pizza. It'd be better if those were changed to real crabs.

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