3:2 and 4:3 used to be fairly common but I think economies of scale made everything 16:9 because of TVs
Fortunately 16:10 is becoming more popular again which does give a bit more vertical space
3:2 and 4:3 used to be fairly common but I think economies of scale made everything 16:9 because of TVs
Fortunately 16:10 is becoming more popular again which does give a bit more vertical space
Yeah. Strange that in general the applications themselves haven't transitioned with the hardware. Every office desktop seems to have a widescreen, but every office application still has its menus along the top by default, and does little to take advantage of the increased horizontal space.
At work I usually need to have multiple windows up, so no one window spans the width of the display. It's often nice to have two documents side-by-side instead.
If it's Windows give Fancy Zones (included in PowerToys) a whirl. Modifiable window snap zones are excellent.
Also altsnap is a great tool for throwing stuff around when not suited to fixed layouts
If you have VESA mounts at your desk just use one in portrait and one in landscape, at least that's what I do
Exactly what I do too, then had a shower thought about why I had to.
It's also about the lease common denominator a 16:9 screen will show the aspect ratio of a 4:3 but a 4:3 won't show a 16:9. The whole point of a 16:9 was to fit all common ratios without distortion.
Forgot to say, I reckon your economies of scale answer is the reason why. TVs were, so makes sense for monitors to be.
It sounds like people in your workspace haven’t discovered opening multiple windows side by side.
I’ve found people in the windows world often make everything full screen all the time- such a waste. You have a 40” 6k display and you open a single giant word doc.
You could have 3 or more documents open side by side- or a webpage for reference, a notepad, and your work or 1000 other combinations.
I do development work so my workflow is extremely text heavy, but it’s rare that I don’t have 4+ windows open simultaneously per display. I also use an old dell monitor I had laying around rotated 90 degrees as others mentioned for log monitoring or chat threads.
I think people just need to get more creative using their space- it’s not the monitor’s fault if you don’t fill it with stuff.
the most commonly used workplace productivity apps are less useful in landscape mode.
They aren't less useful, they just don't take advantage of the extra space on their own. A wide monitor allows you to put multiple windows side-by-side without the expense of an additional monitor though.
With that in mind; a wide monitor is useful for document editing, web browsing, media viewing/production, gaming, and can even be rotated (stand/mount permitting) for a tall view if desired.
A square monitor is much more limited.
With that in mind; a wide monitor is useful for ... web browsing
Are you serious? As I'm typing this comment Lemmy has just over 4" of totally unused space on the left of my monitor and 3 1'2" of unused space on the right!
Granted that's not the fault of the monitor but not only does widescreen reduce the amount of viewable area top to bottom modern web hackery doesn't even fucking use all of that extra space side to side!
I have about the same viewable area now as I did in 2000 with a 20" "square" monitor!
they just don't take advantage of the extra space on their own. A wide monitor allows you to put multiple windows side-by-side without the expense of an additional monitor though.
A square monitor is much more limited.
Stop making a single browser window full screen and use the additional space on the side for something useful. A chat application, a notepad, a calculator, file browsing, a second browser window, documents, etc.
Or rotate the display to be tall instead of wide if you really want the extra vertical space.
Just because you haven't bothered to take advantage of the space doesn't mean it's useless. You've just trapped yourself in a close-minded box. Making the monitor wider doesn't 'reduce the amount of viewable area top to bottom', it adds additional area to the sides, primarily for additional tasks in an office setting. It's up to you to actually use it.
The market is to optimize for max human eyesight, which is a horizontal aspect ratio. For edge cases, a monitor can be converted to a vertical aspect ratio easily.
There really isn't a large market to go square. If anything, monitors have gotten wider over time.
Not to mention I only want to go wider.
The immersion for gaming is all I car for, my work laptop is for work and it's something I hardly use as a mechanic
I am a big fan of 21:9 aspect ratio because it is wide when you want it but can be square(ish) when you don't by snapping two windows sode by side.
We did that for decades. It was pretty miserable.
I reckon that was more to do with the actual screen size though. Screens are a fuckload bigger and cheaper these days.
I mean, I think not, having lived on them, and not wanting to go back.
Its about information density. The "things" we interact with, they almost never fit into an equal dimensional density across two dimensions. There is almost always more substantially more information in one dimension than the other.
A spread sheet you are interacting with is almost always either longer in one way, or wider in another. Even if it wasn't, creating a manner in which it could be optimally viewed would make the content irrelevantly small.
We're better off picking one of the two dimensions, committing to an orientation, and then rotating our monitor to fit that. If we do that, we'll get more information per unit area on the screen.
I still have one of these at home
I think it's 5:4
Think I had the exact same one in about 2008!
Yup my school had hundreds. They shoukd have kept them, they're the nokia brick of monitors.
I suspect the answer is because computer monitors evolved from televisions and video monitors, which standardised on 4:3 and, later, 16:9 for media viewing.
There was a brief period during the switch to LED when 3:2 and then 16:10 looked like they could take over, but 16:9 made a comeback and monitors have remained mostly in lockstep with modern TVs ever since.
I kinda liked 16:10, briefly had a work monitor with it.
That was the absolute best. 1920x1200.
You can still buy 1920x1200 monitors, I have two that are less than 5 years old.
Absolutely worth it for remotely accessing 1920x1080 systems.
Humans (and most other animals) see better side-to-side than up-down. Your eyes are spaced horizontally, giving us a wider horizontal field of vision. People generally prefer putting things side-to-side in work environments, maybe also reflecting how much easier it is to move and work within a horizontal plane than a vertical one. So the upper threshold for monitor width would be longer than the upper threshold for monitor height.
That being said, I know reading is best done in narrower columns, to reduce the amount of left-right movement your eyes need to do which can cause you to lose your place when skimming lines. Three columns of text on a 16:9 monitor is way more readable than one column of text that spans the entire monitor.
And then why do we make an exception for phones which are predominantly used in portrait mode? I guess maybe just for easier 1-handed use? Maybe also to give us more peripheral vision of potential hazards and other things happening in the background when using them, since they're mobile devices.
We see on a wide horizontal plane, so maybe there is a connection to that?
You turn your secondary monitor 90 degrees and rotate the screen in display settings. This is how I worked on long list items.
I imagine it has to do with binocular vision. If each eye sees roughly a circle, overlapping roughly makes a landscape rectangle. So perhaps that aspect ratio and orientation just "feels" better?
Modern squarish (16:18) monitors do exist, a friend has one and swears by it. For example, this one isn't even that expensive given the size, resolution and that it's bundled with what looks like an excellent monitor arm.
Personally I'm more in the "two windows side by side on a big ass 16:9" camp.
A 16:9 screen is basically two squares side by side, so instead of making a big square they can just make the landscape monitor bigger until it's large enough that you can comfortable view two documents side-by-side. I definitely prefer 16:10 or 3:2, though.
Nothing would look good on a square monitor.
If you want a tall monitor, turn it sideways.
Remember when PSUs used to have a power port in it that you plugged your monitor in to?
That was a great idea and wish it still existed but I guess they needed all the space for all the millions of peripherals that got added.
I tried for a while to use two 16:9 vertically. Like you say, vertical makes a lot of sense and it works great. But web devs seem universally to assume that if it’s a tall narrow screen, to show the mobile version.
But web devs seem universally to assume that if it’s a tall narrow screen, to show the mobile version.
Web Devs are also highly allergic to using the 25% of the screen on both the right and left so only the middle 50% is useful space. It's god damned infuriating!
It’s easier on your neck to look side to side than it is up and down. So to get more screen real estate it makes more sense to go horizontal. Anecdotally, I constantly have two documents or a document and a web page open next to each other on one monitor. The landscape framing works really well for that.
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