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submitted 2 weeks ago by Irelephant@lemm.ee to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Every time I go to the piefed frontpage I'm blown away by how much more polished it is. It has all the bells and whistles that lemmy is sometimes missing.

Whats the catch? Why aren't we recommending everyone goes to piefed instead of lemmy?

App support is one thing I can think of.

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[-] BagOfHeavyStones@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For me..

Because the PWA font is too small and can't be enlarged.

Because there's no 'back to top' button so have to kill the app to refresh.

Because there's no app.

But sometimes I use it anyway because the combining of articles is so much better than seeing the same article three or four times in a row in Voyager.

[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 2 weeks ago

Why aren't we suggesting Mbin over Lemmy, actually? Because it seems like it has the same options. And Mbin even has an app (not just the PWA function)!

[-] rimu@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Interstellar works with PieFed now although the API it uses is only enabled on one instance https://preferred.social as we're still testing it out.

[-] BagOfHeavyStones@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Looks like preferred is invite only at this time.

"Invite code (see post on flagship instance)"

[-] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

There's quite a few nice apps for Lemmy. I'm using Connect for Lemmy on android and it's wonderful.

[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, I'm aware that both Lemmy and Mastodon have good apps. I'm just pointing out that if the 'argument' is that alternatives don't have an app, MBin does have one.

[-] Nusm@yall.theatl.social 0 points 2 weeks ago

MBin does have one.

…for Android. Nothing for iOS.

[-] Meshuggah333@fedia.io 0 points 2 weeks ago

True, MBin is small so I'm not surprised they cater to the bigger platform.

[-] Nusm@yall.theatl.social 0 points 2 weeks ago

You may not be from the US, but in the US smartphone market, as of late 2024, iOS (Apple) holds a larger market share than Android, with iOS at around 58% and Android at 42%.

[-] jwr1@kbin.earth 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm the developer of Interstellar, and I am actually from the US. iOS support is something I'd like to add, but is not the priority. @Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org made many good points about it not catering towards FOSS projects, but I'd also like to add, it costs $100 every single year in order to have an Apple developer account, which is required if you want to publish anything to the Apple App Store. Additionally, Apple's very expensive hardware is required in order to build and release any Apple software, which I do not own.

All that to say, I'd like to support iOS and macOS platforms, but Apple makes it extremely difficult (and costly) for that to happen. Why should I have to pay $100 every year in order to publish a free app that I'm not even making any money off of?

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Apps make or break those platforms. Lemmy apps are way better than what Mastodon has for example (but I have to tip my hat to Phanpy). We got really lucky that Lemmy exploded in popularity due to Reddit API changes which meant many app developers gave Lemmy a shot. I probably wouldn’t use Lemmy so much if Voyager didn’t fill the hole Apollo left in my heart.

[-] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

Voyager is so polished, it elevates the whole experience.

[-] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

All your saying is, it looks better. I am not using any Lemmy webfrontend, I've always been using the apps that are available, many of which are absolutely polished.

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

There's more than that.
Stuff like feeds, topics and better onboarding.

[-] jgrim@discuss.online 0 points 2 weeks ago

I run a Pixelfed instance. The code is faaaaaaaarrrrr from polished. Its buggy and the admin interface either doesn't work or is poorly implemented. I'd rather run and moderate Lemmy than Pixelfed. I have considered just shutting it down several times. I run the instance https://social.photo/.

[-] Madbrad200@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Piefed is another federated social aggregator https://piefed.social/ akin to Lemmy.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Generally, because I think all server-centric AP software is broken and I want to see a client-first application to browse the social web.

Particularly in relation to piefed: it seems to be focused on the exact opposite (giving more power to the server admins) and it takes a good page of social engineering / "nudge theory" principles to guide its design. Much like Mastodon, it seems to be strongly opinionated about how people should behave and it kinda gives me an icky feeling about its culture.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

It may be a bit opiniated, but it's nice to see a different approach from Lemmy devs who don't see the need for any additional moderation tool.

I brought up mod mail during the AMA, it has been considered too complex to implement. A moderation panel with an overview of the mod queue would be nice too, but not a priority.

I'm not saying Piefed is perfect, but at least they prioritize that aspect.

[-] nutomic@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

We are working on new moderation features all the time, for example 1.0 will correctly federate instance bans which is quite complicated to get right. There will also be a plugin system which allows for much more flexible mod tools. Its just that our time is very limited for all the work that needs to be done on a project with over 50k active users.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

This comment was not supposed to be a huge critique of Lemmy, more like a comparison.

Everybody is aware that you do what you can with the resources you have.

[-] nutomic@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

Fair enough, its just a bit strange that this particular critique comes up regularly.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

I just gave it a try, this is what the moderation panel looks like on Piefed:

Maybe this makes it more clear

[-] nutomic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Thanks, good to know.

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