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[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

None of these people used the "I'm just following orders" until they were in handcuffs. They didn't give a fuck before then.

[-] reev@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 week ago

AI image generation has come a long way.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is ai? I can't find any obvious tells...

There's some weirdness with eyes and the little boy I guess

[-] reev@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

There's weird details on some of the fingers that an artist probably wouldn't put there (just extra lines, no extra fingers), the text is pretty telltale of the new GPT image generation but the most clear way to tell is the SS on the collar and the piece on the hat.

[-] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 18 points 1 week ago

The guy holding the native American guy isn't really holding onto anything

[-] Pili@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

It's hard to tell without motion but he's actually passionately stroking his braid.

[-] arken@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Plus the kid's face...

[-] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 12 points 1 week ago

Yes, the SS logo is different on both sides (and wrong), the daughter looks exactly like the mom and other tells. Hence my F AI comment (that was down voted).

[-] gurnu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

They all look the same because it's been trained so. Wonder how many artists have had their work stolen so some CEO's can churn money on AI...

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Some of its obvious tells have been hidden behind a heavy texture, which made it just as easy to spot.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 week ago

You'd think that Americans being represented more than the Germans would be telling...

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

The Germans learned from us.

[-] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

And USA learned it from the British.

[-] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago

one and the same people tbh

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

My argument would be that Indian reservations were concentration camps, although they predate the use of the term.

I'm aware the Spanish did it in Cuba in the late 1800's, and the British did during the Boer war, but were the British doing it in advance of the relocation of Native Americans started by the US in 1830?

[-] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Britains first colonial project was Ireland, which began around 1169 and intensified into the 1500s. They still occupy a part of the island and killings of unarmed civilians (sometimes children, sometimes shot in the back) are still being investigated and prosecuted.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Colonizing and occupying the island, and even killing the residents wouldn't be the same as establishing concentration camps.

I'm not familiar with the details of the British occupation of Ireland, but the earliest I can find instances of people being put in camps is in the 1920's

Did Britain create some form of concentration camps before then?

Edit: it is such a fucked up thing to be claiming "credit" for.

[-] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The island was so small that it was a camp itself, just referred to as Ireland. I can understand how that could be missed in a relative brief search.

It was heavily surveilled, controlled and garrisoned with similar abuse and exploitation that Native Americans faced. So the name and presentation is different maybe, but it’s essentially the same.

Later there were further camps called internment camps and prison camps. You’ll find reference to these around the time of the 1798 rebellion.

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 25 points 1 week ago

A lot of them are at KKK meetings in their spare time. They wanted this job.

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 14 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I know an ICE agent. He’s a real piece of MAGA racist shit.

Yeah these dudes signed up hoping to get these orders

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

None of them were JUST following orders. They absolutely take pride and pleasure in doing what they do.

Also you forgot the IDF

[-] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago

AI generated image, not a comic

[-] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

nobody takes responsibility, nobody's got a conscience. and in fact as someone said here, some of these agents wanted to receive these orders anyway.

also, f*ck a.i.

[-] hmmm@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago
[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago

The Banality of Evil at work.

[-] mriormro@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

More ai bullshit. This isn't a comic.

[-] cheribbit@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

very upsetting to find out this comic is ai generated. i wanted to comment on how people like comparing the current us regime to Nazi Germany but never seem to realize that the us itself was founded on the genocide of the Indigenous Peoples.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 6 points 1 week ago

Why? This is a political comic making a point.

Being able to draw doesn't mean you have good political takes, and vice versa

[-] cheribbit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

as far as i'm concerned all image generative ai does is steal other people's labour with no compensation or recognition.

(text generative ai that generates "stories" fits in this category too)

if one very badly wants to make a point in the form of a political comic, then commission an artist instead.

[-] huppakee@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

If you really wanted to make a valid point, you should have submitted a handwritten letter.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 0 points 1 week ago

It's not a zero sum game - the real problem is when it's competing with paid work

Commissioning an artist to do this is imaginary work - there's no money to be made here, who commissions a political comic? If you can't draw, you wouldn't be doing it

There's a problem if you're mass producing slop, or companies are using AI art to avoid paying artists... But this was a clear, human created message delivered by using a fancy tool

And what's more, this is an important message to spread ASAP.

Can you name a better situation to use Gen image AI, or do you just hate it because of what it is?

[-] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago

A single AI image costs the same amount of energy as half of a full charge on a phone btw, could have just made it yourself or hung out with some artists and pitched them this idea, they would have done it for free if you're friendly; making this stuff though, not gonna make many artist friends!

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

[disclaimer: stealing from starving artists is bad]

Who commissions a political comic

lol

Great comment


I wish the courts decided everybody should use that Adobe model where anyone in the training set gets compensated. The debate immediately becomes far less interesting when nobody is obviously getting directly screwed.

Once that moral high ground is achieved, the arguments about increased accessibility of expression become more sympathetic. Then I can’t just care about the artist who needs to make rent, I have to care about the amateur filmmaker who can’t afford to traditionally storyboard their dream just like it is in their brain…

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah, and there's children starving in Africa

I want artists to eat, and I also want everyone to have more access to expression. Me finishing my dinner doesn't help the kids in Africa, and if I made a comic I'm not stealing food from the artists mouths

If you want systematic changes, you need systematic solutions. Empty moralizing won't fix anything

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I suppose the systemic solution would be a mandate to follow an Adobe-style model.

Certainly seems impossible to harm anyone by making a comic for fun with an available tool.

For contrast -

Entrepreneurs who start small businesses today and especially the years to come 2026 will have to decide though where their morals lie - will an artist, or Altman, profit from the logo creation?

[-] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 9 points 1 week ago
[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago
[-] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 week ago

cringe that you support this slop

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

the only thing cringe here is how upset people get over this

[-] tocano@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago

I'd argue agents often participate willingly because they are conditioned to view the people as enemies threatening their lives. The phrase "just following orders" is used afterwards to ease guilt and shift responsibility.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Name a time in history where cops were on the right side of a social issue? I'll wait....

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Every us-backed coup, if they went against it

[-] minorkeys@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's the same in every sector where people are dependent on following orders to eat and house themselves. Health insurance in america isn't any different. People are forced to be assholes to each other just to feed themselves and it's a symptom of how business businesses.

[-] Fungah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

"yes" is the most dangerous word in the English language.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Include the Louisiana prison warden.

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