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40k is crazy good (hexbear.net)

Got deep into WH40k lore and this has to be the most batshit insane piece of fiction I've read. Everything about it is so absurd that it loops to become great.

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[-] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago

Ork lore is very funny. I love it when WH 40K gets weird instead of grimdark and serious - some of the writers kind of forgot that it's supposed to be satirical and humor is allowed.

[-] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

Ork lore is my favorite, too. The whole concept that an Ork machine works because Orks believe it’ll work is hilarious, but also genuinely kind of interesting and unique.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

That has been really over-stated by the fandom. Afaik shootas aren't just empty boxes full of loose screws and bits of metal. They are guns. But when the imperium tries to shoot them they jam constantly and are prone to fouling, while for orks the waagh smooths things over just enough to keep the mechanism running smoothly under sustained fire, and even then they blow up pretty regularly.

Why the red unz go fasta is ambiguous - maybe the psychic force of the waagh is pushing them faster. Maybe the mekboys just have a knack for knowing which war buggies are the fasest and paint them red.

Mekboys, and all orks, have an incredible amount of technical knowledge written in to their genetic material. If a mekboy lives long enough and is part of a big enough waagh field they'll just know how to build a warp drive the way human babies just know how to crawl.

[-] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

I’m not that fussed with the degree to which the Ork waaagh functions, I just like the idea that at least part of their functionality as a civilization is literally based on vibes.

[-] VernetheJules@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

their society is just like mine fr

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

Legit, legit.

🧠

[-] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

Self-assembling fungal nanotech bioweapon eco(no)system growing genetically engineered gene-memoried supersoldiers (7ft tall Bri'ish football hooligans)

It reads like a BMF post

[-] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

How I yearn for the days of Rogue Trader.

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

I'm so hyped for Rogue Trader considering it's Owlcat making it. Next up I want a Larian 40k game.

[-] Seryph@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Chuds may not like it but the ideal space marine army is painted in gaudy camo and has at least 20 instances of the word kill written in big blocky letters on their armour.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

The pinnacle of imperial guard generalship is sending millions of largely untrained fanatic conscripts to their meaningless deaths because choking tyrannid war beasts to death under a mountain of human corpses upholds the glory of the emprah!

I saw someone say that guardsmen are all trained to the standard of navy seals of some bs and it really made it clear how long it's been since a conscript army really went to war.

[-] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

My favourite 40k quote is the one by a Kreig guardsman explaining his illiteracy

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

I haven't seen that one. Do you have a link?

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[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Back in my misbegotten youth, I was one of those insufferable WH40K fans who thought the Imperium of Man was awesome and TOUGH MEN DOING WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE and WHOA LOOK AT THE BADASS SUPERMEN MOWING DOWN THE ALIEN SCUM THAT MUST BE EXTERMINATED. This was also how most other fans I'd met engaged with it.

Grew up, realized how gross and fashy my thinking was, and now I can't disentangle the thought of enjoying the franchise from my early views on it.

[-] WashedAnus@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

yea

What growing up in a diseased western society that values fascism over solidarity does to a mfer.

[-] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

In the way of nerd stuff it is good, bur the fans ruin in. In one of the original versions Margaret thatcher was an evil demon

[-] Babs@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

An Ork. Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka.

But like a lot of things in 40k the satire was overshadowed by the serious lore material, and Ghazghkull is just a badass Ork Warboss now.

[-] Seryph@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This wasn't actually intentional by the writers (according to Andy Chambers the name came from a LARP orc language) but it's funny and fits regardless so it's good actually.

(Also possible that Andy was just lying to protect the IP)

There is no way that was not intentional. It'd be like if someone created a goblin called D'an uld Truhmph in 2018 and said they never thought about the American president

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[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

Dere iz no such ting as a WAAAGH, only orkz and grotz

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

Didn't know 40k Was historically accurate

[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
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[-] ElGosso@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

40K took a ton of influence from 2000 AD comics - guys like Alan Moore being incredibly transgressive and really pushing limits and stuff like that. So there's a ton of crazy shit in there.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

Yeah. Dune, star wars, foundation, michael moorcock, 200ad (there are 1:1 rips from judge dredd), starship troopers, aliens, and a bunch of others. Wh40k has very few new ideas and in most cases isan extremely impressive act of copyright violation.

[-] ElGosso@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

Great artists steal and all that

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[-] isame@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Love seeing someone mention Moorcock. It's been years, I may have to pick them back up again.

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[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Agreed. Also, please don't tempt me to get back into it. I have rent to pay.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

40k is so big that in between all the schlock and bolter porn there's occasionally something good.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Since we're on 40k again someone remind me who the fringe outer world communists are. It came up in a discussion here in the past and they seemed interesting but I forgot.

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

the T'au? they are sometimes represented as a socialist civ but are also under control of a cult, they are divided by castes and other things, still they are probably the nicest xenos in the setting by not being mega racists.

the Eldar are a post -scarcity civ so you could call them a communist civilization but it kinda depends on the craftworld

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

No it was some fringe outer world group of humans outside the imperium.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

One of the League's of Votann is literally called the "URSR" and they're vaguely coded as a commie faction

Is that what you're thinking of?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

Yeah this is one of them, I think another was mentioned too. Or it may have been further lore about the same one I'm not sure.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

There's the Valhallans who look like WWII soviets, but they're just another planet in the fascist Imperium.

[-] aesopjah@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

There's a David Attenborough AI voice lore channel on YouTube that I've been listening to. Never thought I'd be a 40k lore person, but that shits pretty dope

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

I really like the lore for the Xenos civs, to me they are the most intersting than the human-chaos ones, i really like the tyranids

[-] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

How do you even get into the lore? Wiki or books or playing the game?

[-] Gloomy@mander.xyz 7 points 2 years ago

Do add to this, there are some good Youtube chanels that do 40k Lore.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

My advice would be to download the PDF of the latest full rulebook and read the lore section. It's written as an introduction and will give you a high level overview of the factions and settings. Then, read the lore sections of any factions you find to be particularly interesting, or find a novel involving them.

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

I just listen to Youtube videos in the gym

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