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[-] Lembot_0001@lemm.ee 53 points 1 week ago

Mirrors are complicated. In the old times of the Build engine (the first one where the mirrors were present as I know), they were emulated by a window and a similar room behind that window with a model of the player moving synchronously.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

i think it wasn't until far later than this that any engine was emulating reflections

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I'm sure that's what's happening here

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean, that is a pretty reasonable way to do a mirror, or a very glossy reflective floor (just throw a transparency/alpha layer over it and render it on top of the floor texture) back before... shaders as we know them today really got invented, and model poly count/texture res is not very high... and you specifically only do this kind of mirroring in enclosed, indoor areas that don't have huge vistas.

Like, I don't think Deus Ex is on 'the build engine', but it certainly ultimately derives from it, and it does this.

Then you get to HL2, and while, to my knowledge, HL2 doesn't literally have 'mirrors' in it, you can basically do that by making a render target camera, the kind that displays in the game as a TV screen of some kind... well you could just point that camera right out of where the mirror is, and have the render quality/resolution be lower than the quality/resolution of the rest of the world.

(ofc this wouldn't work in hl2 just per se, because gordon isn't actually rendered as a player model, but you could futz around in gmod not long after hl2 and do this, i know this because i did it)

I am reasonably confident most modern games with mirrors ... basically do that, just with an actual game settings slider to determine fidelity instead of all those settings that used to be baked into the map as it was with custom hl2/gmod/sourcemod maps.

Water, window and world space reflections can/could also be set to just... render the whole world again in a lower quality... but prior to that, it was more common to bake a static 'reflect map' into your compiled map, as realtime duplicating the whole world can often be waaay too demanding.

And of course now we have shifted over to the Real Time Ray Tracing paradigm, that is absurdly high fidelity but absurdly highly demanding, and that has neccessitated the development of frame upcaling and frame gen tech to balance out the performance losses from this absurdly inefficient lighting paradigm.

[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Deus Ex was on Unreal Engine 1 or 2. Other than that, yeah.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 33 points 1 week ago
[-] archonet@lemy.lol 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I choose to believe they did, in fact, just post an image with a green canvas and white text saying "Frog wearing glasses", simply because that headcanon is funnier to me

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 5 days ago

It's not even glasses pepe

[-] archonet@lemy.lol 4 points 5 days ago

and thus my headcanon was ruined

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago

This is what I thought, too?

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah it's meta humour

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 25 points 1 week ago
[-] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Hey that's fun. Thanks for the link

[-] makyo@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

The more I look at that room the less it makes sense

[-] boletus@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago
[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago

Wall mirror?

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago

It literally looks like an image though. Got a frame and everything and is at a weird ass location for being a mirror.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

It's an angled wall so it seems like a really good spot for a mirror.

[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 10 points 1 week ago

If you don't notice the wall is angled, the picture didn't make sense.

That and the fact that the fan is perfectly framed and lit.

[-] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 5 days ago

Well isn't this whole thread about making fun of people whose brains are bad at spacial reasoning?

[-] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

I don't get the frame problem; many mirrors are framed, and lots of them used to check stuff like hair styling etc. My bathroom mirror gets too fogged up to check after a shower, and it's always good to once over yourself.

Not trying to shill for Amazon but as an example https://www.amazon.com/framed-wall-mirrors/s?k=framed+wall+mirrors

Of course you might just mean the framing as in composition.

[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 6 days ago

you might just mean the framing as in composition.

This was the case

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

this again. how often does it get posted?

[-] MxPikachu@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Was this posted here before? I crossposted it to other communities but I didn't see it here.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Admittedly it does get posted often but your account is literally two hours old so I don't think you can be blamed lol

In fairness to the person who started this comment thread, you did post this in 3 different communities and it can be annoying to come across the same thing multiple times. Plenty of people do it though so I don't think its a huge deal

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

I wish multiple posts like that could get amalgamated somehow. Like a unified comment section or something.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I don't even mind. I was just curious. After writing my comment, I thought about how it would be cool to check pic checksums and show a repost counter.

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

I don't think checksums would work, image compression/decompression is pretty common. There are definitely ways of doing it though

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

this person STOLE my image that I LIBERATED from someone else!

I Am Calling The Police.

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Its my first time seeing it.

[-] JediMindTricks@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I don't have a mirror - they are too bourgeois for proletarians like me

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