Indigenous people are criticizing the 'Avatar' sequel for relying on tired tropes (edition.cnn.com)

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[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

She said her organization IllumiNative, which aims to improve media portrayals of Indigenous people, is in talks with Disney on how the “Avatar” franchise might avoid similar pitfalls in its third installment, set to release 2024.

kinda lol though. The rest of it may be valid, but this part is just a grift.

edit: She's probably gonna get them to redo half the movie and Disney will force the artists and actors to crunch and be miserable an entire year xD And the third one will somehow be about how the United States is actually Good™ and helping the Na'vi and the bad guys were actually just a rogue splinter faction. All clear guys phew! Call me ridiculously cynical. I'm kind of paranoid that there's a lot of people and institutions kinda out to get this movie because of the fact that it is anti-imperialist and portrays Americans negatively.

[-] YoloParenti@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago

Yeah "is in talks with Disney..." is code for "is soliciting a contract with Disney..." Plus, principal photography wrapped in 2020, and IllumiNative can do the most/best work in preproduction. I'd think it's too late?

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago

can we talk about how this company has illuminati in its name though lmfao

[-] HoChiMaxh@hexbear.net 0 points 3 years ago

Hot take: it’s a white saviour narrative.

The other criticism is they cast non-indigenous actors as Na’Vi, which is like fine obviously gulag white people but is kind of a weird criticism I think. Like the Na’Vi aren’t actually indigenous characters, but :shrug-outta-hecks:

They do mention in the article that an activist made a post on indigenous-made sci-fi flicks which is cool, even though several aren’t sci-fi flicks comrades should check the list out anyways there’s some good stuff in there.

[-] geikei@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago

Almost all Na'vi are played by non white people. The avatars that were white people to begin with or are kids of white people Avatars are played by white people

[-] flan@hexbear.net 0 points 3 years ago

Hot take: it’s a white saviour narrative.

the entire story is a white guy who puts on his vr helmet and saves the natives

[-] HoChiMaxh@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago

I don’t think that’s the entire story comrade but ok

[-] flan@hexbear.net 0 points 3 years ago

i havent seen the second one but that was the first one in a nutshell

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago

I mean he literally kills his white body at the end of the first one.

[-] flan@hexbear.net 0 points 3 years ago

how does that change what i said

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago

It's like yeah it's a white savior movie but it's also the best white savior movie ever made. He's also barely even in the scene where they're killing the Americans, and he doesn't kill the main bad guy either. So the main "white savior" thing he does is unite the different Na'vi groups. I think people focusing on the white savior aspect of it get boosted because people would rather not hear the anti-US message of the movie.

There's so many random criticisms of these movies that you don't hear about anything else. People being like "Avatar is just a hippie dippie environmental movie" even though there's only one scene that really references that. That it's a white savior movie, that it's this and that... The POINT of the movie is that the white supremacists are unmistakably the bad guys. People should be pointing that out more. Is it such a sin that the white guy who is "one of the good ones" has such a central role?

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

i mean i would too for myself its defective gimme that 10 foot tall blue booty :crazy-frog-trans:

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