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[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 186 points 2 months ago

"Soar"

Looks back a month to compare

Falling without style?

[-] protist@mander.xyz 84 points 2 months ago

First thing I thought. Even after today, the S&P 500 is down 5% on the month and 10% since Trump took office

[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

This is a dead cat bounce. Nothing fundamentally has changed until Trump is out of office. There is no one talking him down from his bad decision making.

He will move onto the next grift or scandal so he can dominate the next news cycle and make the old one go away. Eventually he will come back to fuck with the economy again.

Rinse & Repeat/Round and round we go until he hits something big he can’t make go away like Covid did in his first term. Then he will loose it.

If you want my bet on what that is, it will be a major war.

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[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 88 points 2 months ago

"Soar" is a strong word when you consider they were higher less than a week ago. Can't wait for the next thing he says to drop the market before the weekend so his boys can get in on the next pump and dump. He literally tweeted "NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO BUY" right before he paused the tariffs.

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 73 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I guess y'all think 90 days is enough time for China to back down and for all of your manufacturing and supply chain to spin up?

He could change his mind on a fart tomorrow.

Farce.

Can’t wait to see the demands for DEI removal from sovereign nations to avoid tariffs. Or more energy blackmail.

🖕

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised if the US moron brigade demands from African nations that they shouldn't hire black people anymore.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Africa can do itself a favor by expelling all the American Christians that were there writing some of the laws for some of the countries.

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[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 72 points 2 months ago

Penguins 1 - USA 0

[-] takeda@lemm.ee 53 points 2 months ago

The market reaction is dumb. 90 days bus very little for companies to adapt when years are needed.

I think this but it's just the people seeing his tweet immediately before he lifted the restrictions.

Looks like we are still heading for recession and Treasury bills interest is still jumping up.

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 22 points 2 months ago

One part is a reverse game of chicken, buy the dippest dip to realize most profit from less dippy dip buyers.

The other part is the assumption that this means the tariffs will never actually come or at least in a much relaxed form.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The vibe I get is that most elites really don't want to believe the president could be dumb, because that means they could be too. Elites own and/or work with a lot of stocks, and that extends to their investing decisions.

So they figure, sure, it must just be a 4D chess bluff.

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Is anyone else disgusted by the term “elites”? It plays right into the mindset of the wealthy oligarchs, who sincerely believe they’re better than the rest of us.

Such people aren’t “elite,” they’re useless parasites that wouldn’t be able to exist if they weren’t sucking the wealth out of us. It’s time we stop using a term that kisses their asses.

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[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I agree this is just market euphoria. We have a lot of systemic issues that have been exacerbated and/or entirely created by Trump.

The core problem is Trump full stop. He is sitting in the White House with nothing but “Yes” men in his cabinet. It’s only a mater of time until he releases his next scheme on the market.

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[-] aleq@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I think this but it's just the people seeing his tweet immediately before he lifted the restrictions.

Market doesn't know if the tariffs are even coming back, and are taking the chance to buy back low.

[-] takeda@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

He suspended it for 90 days and also previously threatened that there will be more, so we don't even know if next week there won't be new tariffs.

[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 51 points 2 months ago

Have we forgotten that he has done this each month since he was Inaugurated?

He crashes the the stock market with talk of tariffs. The wealthy buys options on the decline, and buy on this massive dip, and in a few days, HitlerPig announces that the countries on his list have responded to his tariff threats, so he is postponing them for a month or so.

The stock market recovers a bit, and the wealthy will make fortune. In a month, he'll do it all over again. This was thebthird cycle since Inauguration.

It's deliberate market manipulation.

[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

It I not ~~illegal~~ Market Manipulation if the president does it

[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 months ago

Thos whole thing is so fucking stupid.

[-] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

Like the majority of muricans

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 months ago

as a 'merican... i feel that

but also I'm Lakota and I'm fucking laughing

[-] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 months ago

Speaking from experience in Canada, the 90 days is meaningless. Welcome to the dance of constant tariff threats every two weeks only to backpedal when the market crashes.

He does not have the attention span to wait 9 days let alone 90. This man is a toddler with a flamethrower having a tantrum.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

This man is a toddler with a flamethrower having a tantrum.

More like one flamethrower in each hand.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 2 months ago

For 90 days, if he can resist changing it again that long.

I'm also pretty confused about how Canada and Mexico fit into this, because they said we're included in the rollback to 10%, but we weren't in the original "liberation day" tariffs in the first place.

[-] ThraawnSolo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 months ago

90 days to save up your hard earned money so you can buy the dip again...and again...and again. This is what the old shit stain is doing.

[-] Phineaz@feddit.org 22 points 2 months ago

Not specifically directed at OP, but I am sick of those truncated graphs.

Also, fuck Trump. Not in a goof way.

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

35% Tarriffs on eu/Asia and 104% Tarriffs on China is still a recession. Other countries arent removing their Tarriffs

The only positive thing this did was show that Trump is weak, so hopefully he'll stay at these rates and maybe he'll be out by the end of the year

[-] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 months ago

From the article:

The commerce secretary added on X that he and Treasury secretary Scott Bessent “sat with the President while he wrote one of the most extraordinary Truth posts of his Presidency”

Next time I'm feeling down, I'll just remember that someone felt the need to post on Xitter that he helped Trump write down his best posts on some shit social.

[-] uienia@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

The normalisation of that insane shit is something the mass media has to bear a large portion of the responsibility for.

[-] omgitsaheadcrab@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago

Isn't the 10% still active? This is the oldest negotiation strategy in the book..

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Are we sure this wasn't a pump and dumb scheme by the administration?

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 17 points 2 months ago

Trump literally said "it's a great time to buy".

So, yes, it is definitely a pump and dump, but it's not only a pump and dump.

[-] kablammy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

pump and dumb

Perfect typo... I think

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[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago

Are investors idiots? He's just going to change his mind again in three days

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[-] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 12 points 2 months ago

Oh boy all this uncertainty is surely good for their precious economy.

[-] theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 2 months ago

Dead cat bounce is a real thing. At best its just increased volatility, which is not good.

[-] gon@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

This is kind of funny tbh

[-] mooncake@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Backs down for a few days Also I'm mad that Tesla is up at 272 now from 221 earlier this morning

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

As if anyone is going to start buying Elon's crap cars again just because Trump suspends some tariffs.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

... Meanwhile, the bond markets are continuing to freak the fuck out, and the yield curve has now inverted and univerted three times before an actual 'official' recession has begun.

For those that don't know, a yield curve inversion is when short term bonds offer a higher yield (interest rate) than long term bonds.

That... it not how that is supposed to work.

Generally speaking, a longer term bond should be riskier due to the amount of things that can possibly go wrong in that longer amount of time, as compared to a shorter term bond that pays itself back in less time, with less time for unforseen nonsense to happen.

Every single US official recession in the last ... 50, 100 years? has occured after first, the yield curve inverts, then it uninverts, and then an 'official' recession follows quite rapidly.

....Except fucking now.

Now we are in a situation where the yield curve has inverted then uninverted three fucking times without an 'official' recession actually starting.

This is unprecedented.

As of right now, the 6 month T Bill and the 5 year T Bond have roughly the same yield, and everything in between has a lower yield, the lowest point being the 2 yr.

... Its supposed to be basically a line going upward on the y axis of yields, as you move rightward on the x axis from shorter to longer term debt/bonds.

The bond market right now is more or less saying we are gonna be in for 2 years minimum of economic decline.

[-] DrFistington@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Yup, reverse pump and dump. Knew he was gonna fold his pussy flaps

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[-] sircac@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

That’s why the orange toupee said that they were wining millions a day… buy the dip, sell the rip

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Is there anything that Trump can't do?

[-] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Lots. Math, logic, leading a nation, golf, speak, charm, stay on the good side of the law, make friends...can't be bothered to continue..

[-] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 4 points 2 months ago

Make rational decisions relating to trade.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Hold his bowels every time he flys into a rage, it's a known fact

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