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submitted 2 weeks ago by Sunny@slrpnk.net to c/linux@lemmy.world

Stumbled across this quick post recently and thought it was a really good tale and worth sharing.


A couple of weeks ago, I saw a tweet asking: "If Linux is so good, why aren't more people using it?" And it's a fair question! It intuitively rings true until you give it a moment's consideration. Linux is even free, so what's stopping mass adoption, if it's actually better? My response:

  • If exercising is so healthy, why don't more people do it?
  • If reading is so educational, why don't more people do it?
  • If junk food is so bad for you, why do so many people eat it?

The world is full of free invitations to self-improvement that are ignored by most people most of the time. Putting it crudely, it's easier to be fat and ignorant in a world of cheap, empty calories than it is to be fit and informed. It's hard to resist the temptation of minimal effort.

And Linux isn't minimal effort. It's an operating system that demands more of you than does the commercial offerings from Microsoft and Apple. Thus, it serves as a dojo for understanding computers better. With a sensei who keeps demanding you figure problems out on your own in order to learn and level up.

Now I totally understand why most computer users aren't interested in an intellectual workout when all they want to do is browse the web or use an app. They're not looking to become a black belt in computing fundamentals.

But programmers are different. Or ought to be different. They're like firefighters. Fitness isn't the purpose of firefighting, but a prerequisite. You're a better firefighter when you have the stamina and strength to carry people out of a burning building on your shoulders than if you do not. So most firefighters work to be fit in order to serve that mission.

That's why I'd love to see more developers take another look at Linux. Such that they may develop better proficiency in the basic katas of the internet. Such that they aren't scared to connect a computer to the internet without the cover of a cloud.

Besides, if you're able to figure out how to setup a modern build pipeline for JavaScript or even correctly configure IAM for AWS, you already have all the stamina you need for the Linux journey. Think about giving it another try. Not because it is easy, but because it is worth it.

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[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The UIs and UXes in Linux are still shit and look like they are from 1998. Engineers are not great designers. I design UI and UX for windows and Android for a living. I'm not professionally educated in design, but I know how to make a GUI look like it wasn't a collab by Mattel and M.C Esher for use on a museum computer. That goes for apps and system features. The Bluetooth device GUI in Linux Mint is fuckawful:

Being able to consistently install things by downloading an exe from a website and just double click it is lacking.

The names of Linux software are also regularly dumb. Trying to be punny, clever, or cool. If it resized images, just call it Image Resized For Mint or something, not "Nautilus" or Nemo", they are forgettable and tell me nothing about the app "Uhh, it was something ocean themed, I think". (This is true of Windows apps as well, Audacity, Figma Director, and Irfanview, I'm looking at you)

Apps "forgetting" the last-used settings, inc last used save file path, or user config, is a common issue too. Out of the box, apps should remember last-used settings without having to be told.

Window focus interfering with key capture is an issue too. Use Flameshot (a screen capture app) to take a region screenshot of a right-click context menu in another app - you can't. Greenshots on windows does it fine.

I still persist with Mint, but the process is further from 'Seamless' than even windows 11, the shitshow it is.

Maybe I just hate all operating systems.

[-] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 weeks ago

Being able to consistently install things by downloading an exe from a website and just double click it is lacking.

This is something I still have issues with. I've been running Mint on an old Mac mini for six or seven months now, and still have to think to remember what flavour of Linux it's based on when trying to install software.

Then there's the way it has software installed via the store, Flatpak, and the terminal, meaning I have multiple places that need software updates. And that doesn't necessarily cover OS updates.

Don't get me wrong, I like Mint, and I do enjoy the tinkering, but I kinda go by the "Could I put this on my mum's laptop without her having trouble?" rule, and the answer is no. It's close, but no.

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[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And Linux isn't minimal effort. It's an operating system that demands more of you than does the commercial offerings from Microsoft and Apple. Thus, it serves as a dojo for understanding computers better. With a sensei who keeps demanding you figure problems out on your own in order to learn and level up.

Counterpoint: most people don't use Linux because the people that evangelize Linux talk about it like this.

I don't want to "level up," I want to accomplish my tasks. I'm trying to get shit done, not train for a fucking tournament.

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[-] Harlehatschi@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

Well yes but also no. There are quite a few distros that are "minimal effort", they just work for the average person without any more knowledge you'd need on Windows or Mac. The last part that's still not so "minimal effort" is gaming, most things just work out of the box, some things don't. Btw Android is Linux.

So I don't think that the problem is that Linux needs a little more knowledge or effort, because it mostly doesn't, but the fact that most people who would switch see a billion different distros and don't know what to do. Having so much choice here actually hinders people from coming to Linux. Doesn't mean it would be better with less choices, it's just one of several reasons why we don't see mass adoption.

Another reason is the outdated thinking that Linux is complicated to use (and this blog fuels just that).

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[-] cortex7979@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

What if I need a program that is only available for windows?

[-] tableflip5@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

compatibility layers makes 99% software work

or try a virtual windows instance if performace is not critical

[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, but for non-technical people this is an insurmountable barrier. My aunt isn't "trying a virtual machine".

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[-] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

Like what? They all have linux versions, alternatives or work with wine, the main issue is sub based window ones since the way they verify licenses often has issues with wine. Im assuming you're missing out on adobe or autodesk stuff?

[-] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

If the programs cpu heavy its suprisingly not that hard to setup windows qemu whatever its called, it opens windows app as native linux windows even tho its an emulation it looks cleaner, but I had issues getting my gpu to work and even if it does I think your linux screen goes black when in use, it was just a hassle and trying to connect the gpu made me need to reset my linux install since my discrete gpu wouldnt work and I had no idea why. Worked fine til I tried to connect my discrete gpu and is very useful for cpu based programs.

[-] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 0 points 2 weeks ago

This is not straightforward for the average user. There's plenty of commercial or niche software that has no real alternative in Linux land. CAD being one - and I'm well aware of freecad, and I love it, but it ain't a pro tool yet.

[-] highball@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

What average user uses CAD? I think you are conflating what an average user requires.

[-] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

Type of user that uses/ want to swap to linux is more likely to be into cad compared to the average window user, just more tech related hobbies

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[-] Kobo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

Screen tearing and things not being simple

[-] Illecors@lemmy.cafe -1 points 2 weeks ago

Screen tearing is no longer an issue, at least on wayland. As for simple... it's different.

Painting your room is to windows like building a house is to linux.

Windows makes it simple to paint your room while linux enables you to build whatever house you want. Nothing is ever free and as such - sometimes certain tradeoffs have to be made that get in a way of what you might consider "simple".

[-] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

Because I need something that works 100% of the time and supports all the software I need to use. I loved playing around with alternative os's when I was younger, but it's mostly for fun, to see if I can learn something, not for being productive.

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