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[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

I know this guy who is absolutely ridiculous about this.

On one hand, he can't stand women's groups, gets upset about women's sports, can't stop dismissing anything that isn't solely masculine like yoga, dance, and even rages on women artists and musicians.

On the other hand, has BEGGED OUT LOUD to people (I'm not even his friend) to get him connected with "chicks".

I have no idea how to tell this guy he's a miserable hateful fuck who will die alone because of his own personality.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty funny that lots of now “feminine” activities like horse riding, yoga and dance were originally very masculine and women got into them when men moved onto to other crap like cars and whipping each other with towels in the locker room.

[-] Cocopanda@futurology.today 3 points 2 weeks ago

I got overweight from the loss of my legs from a spinal injury. My fiancé left me and I haven’t held a serious relationship since. I am a supporter of all rights. So not all of us that are dateless. Are hateful misogynists. Some of us just had a bad deal delt to us.

[-] ArtemisimetrA@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah the dude in my old neighborhood who drove a Dodge RAM but rearranged the letters so it said "WAR" on the tailgate instead, and had a bumper sticker that said "KILL EVERYTHING" in that script that's like, "badass Gothic tribal" but in reality is just floral minus the actual flowers... Not all clown cars are smol

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

Maximum “never actually been in a war” energy there.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

In the US, women couldn’t get credit cards without a co-signer until 1974.

Historically, women had to have a man support them if they wanted options other than poverty. Your grandma probably didn’t have many other options - it might have worked well for her, but that wasn’t a choice made freely.

I think a lot of this is that relationships are a choice now. You have to be someone that someone wants to be with. This is a good thing, but it’s also a hard thing.

It sucks to be lonely and not get laid, but at the same time no one owes you sex or attention.

[-] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Feminism allowed women to become fulfilled all on their own, taking on those "typically masculine" traits of making money, doing tougher work around the house, creating stability, etc. while also maintaining the ability to have the more feminine traits like emotional support through friendships, self-care, etc. Men haven't been socially afforded the same expansion, mostly held back by other men. Like God forbid a guy have a skin care routine, or decorate his home all on his own, that's gay!

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

mostly held back by other men

That’s an important thing to note. Patriarchy hurts men, just in a different way. If women are objects, then not being able to “possess” enough or any is a marker of failure.

I’m the kind of radical feminist that would like to get rid of gender entirely tbh. I like being a man, but I kind of want it to be something we do for fun rather than force it on people.

[-] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think a lot of men have to stop trying to live up to some other guys definition of masculinity.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

In 2013/14 my common law gf applied for life insurance on herself, she was a teacher. The insurance company didn't want to insure her without me cosigning in case she ever lost her job and couldn't pay the premimums. Like wtf. A) its not 1950s, B) if you can't pay you lose the insurance anyway, so no risk to them.

[-] XM34@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh wow, another meme completely disregarding a problem many are struggeling with. But don't worry guys and gals, it's okay because it's making fun of mens' suffering. And men can't be discriminated against.

On another note, has anyone figured out yet, why men are never emotionally available? It truly is a mystery 🤔

/s in case you can't tell.

[-] Slowter1134@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Silly men just need to understand that saying "I'm lonely" and "women belong in the kitchen" are equivalent. So don't you dare ever talk or reach out if you're lonely.

It's a real shame that male loneliness is so quickly dismissed because it would be a great starting point to begin talking about how traditional male friendships tend to keep each other at a distance, and maybe come up with ways to bridge the gap so existing friendships can become deeper.

Instead it feels like the conversation just gets to this point where we all collectively shrug and say, "shame" and never really talk about it more than this.

[-] meyotch@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

In my career, I have had a lot of contacts with Saudi Arabian men. I’ve sometimes been a bit jealous of the ease and familiarity of their male-male friendships in that culture.

They generally have no qualms about just hanging an arm over a friends shoulder and just keeping it there for a protracted side-hug, seemingly without a thought.

Sure, there are other aspects of the culture that give me pause, but the easy familiarity is something that I think is beautiful.

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[-] FatTony@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

"I'm lonely."

"Well, you probably deserve it then."

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[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It isn't being dismissed by this meme. It is being acknowledged as a real thing that really exists and is really a problem. You just don't like the solution it proposes: stop being an asshole.

But I suppose it's everyone else's fault, right?

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[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

Silly men just need to understand that saying “I’m lonely” and “women belong in the kitchen” are equivalent.

Yeah, I think maybe you misunderstood the meme format? I don't think anyone is saying those things are equivalent...

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[-] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think the two are fully related, at least not causally. If 1-3 are true, then there should be a large enough pool with things in common to avoid loneliness. If this specifically means sexual/relationship loneliness than, yeah.

Third spaces going away and moving a lot online has definitely had an impact on people hanging out outside of much more niche groups. I don't care for organized religion much, but people of various backgrounds worshipped together. People had volleyball and other local leagues made up of all kinds of people who saw a flier for it. Men (not sure if women had something similar) went to fraternal order of the whatevers. Hell, dad and I went to Commodore computer enthusiast meet-ups. I think the loss of things like that has been bad for a number of reasons, including loneliness.

[-] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

then there should be a large enough pool with things in common to avoid loneliness. If this specifically means sexual/relationship loneliness than, yeah.

Your last statement is correct. Most men aren't socialized to have deep emotional relationships with their male friends, so they have to rely on a romantic relationship to do all their emotional support (if they even do that, there's some that are also so convinced the women will hate them if they get emotional). Women haven't felt as much of the pain of the loss of 3rd spaces for socialization because it's socially acceptable for them to have emotional relationships with their friends.