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A senior executive at the Social Security Administration was physically dragged from his office this week after clashing with DOGE, according to The Washington Post.

Greg Pearre, a career civil servant who led an IT team working on the agency’s data systems, was removed over his opposition to a DOGE plan to cut off immigrants from key financial services, three people told the Post.

The scheme cooked up by Elon Musk’s DOGE squad falsely lists thousands of migrants as dead in a Social Security database known as the “death master file.”

Being entered into the death database cuts a person off from crucial financial services, like the ability to receive government benefits and access a bank account or credit card.

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[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 91 points 2 weeks ago

This guy fought harder than our democratic leaders.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 27 points 1 week ago

LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK

[-] perestroika@lemm.ee 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Listing living people as dead in an official database is 99% likely a crime.

[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 week ago

Ok, it's a crime. And?

Legality means nothing when you're the law. Consider: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uttar_Pradesh_Association_of_Dead_People

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 59 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like a great lawsuit.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 21 points 2 weeks ago

I understand they’re handing out pardons like candy these days.

[-] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 17 points 2 weeks ago

Can't pardon a lawsuit. Lawsuits are civil; pardons are for criminal cases. Those staffers could be bankrupted, which would be hilarious.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Elon will just pay the settlement for them with $DOGE or $TRUMP. Monetary punishment is not a deterrent for anyone in the current administration.

[-] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago

Doesn't mean people shouldn't still sue and bleed that fuck dry like he's bleeding everyone else.

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[-] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago

So we've officially got a Gestapo in the country now?

C'mon guys.... let's wake the fuck up here.

[-] dryfter@lemm.ee 49 points 1 week ago

Oh this just keeps getting more and more fun every day as someone who is on SSDI, Medicaid/Medicare, and HUD housing. Cut my SSDI and I lose access to everything. I mean it's "illegals" now, the rest of us "parasites" next?

[-] djsp@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's exactly it. Owners want people desperate, because desperate people work for less. As you point out, they start with “illegals”, but they will eventually come for the old and the disabled too, because some people will have to pick up where Social Security left and care for them and, in doing so, will become even more desperate. Who will risk their job fighting for their rights knowing that not only their own livelihood, but also that of their old mother or their disabled brother is on the line? We need to be clear: this is not about government efficiency or even a crackdown on “illegals”, but a war — the owners' war on us workers and our kin.

They've been manufacturing consent in a similar way in Germany, agitating against immigrants and dubbing some or all people in your situation “Sozialschmarotzer” –“social parasites”–. Under the pretense of fighting those threats they conjure, they've been dismantling social security — without DOGE's viciousness, but bit by bit.

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[-] MisterD@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 week ago
[-] Spezi@feddit.org 19 points 1 week ago

They are trying to take over Social Security, so they can have the acronym.

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[-] Wilco@lemm.ee 46 points 1 week ago

Why isn't this DOGE person arrested for assault? We need the name, if our justice system fails to work because of the government prevents it then our Constitution grants us the right to correct this via the 2nd Ammendment.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago

Why isn't this DOGE person arrested for assault?

Because the rule of law has collapsed in America. Stop waiting for it, you are already there

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago

Because it's sensationalised and he didn't physically dragged from his desk by Doggy goon.

But his objections did not go over well with Trump political appointees. And so on Thursday, the security guards in Pearre’s office told him it was time to leave.

They walked Pearre out of the building, capping a momentous internal battle over the novel strategy

The article is based on another article by Washington Post, which did not mention any goon from Doggy nor any dragging.

[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

They have been rolling with either DC police or the Marshalls. Can't remember, but they are bringing guns and muscle.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago

Fun fact, this is "assault" and the guy has a wonderful civil case.

Fun fact #2: civil cases are not criminal cases and are not subject to pardons.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Civil cases against government officers are however subject to qualified immunity while ones against the government are subject to sovereign immunity.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

DOGE isn't a real government entity, Big Balls isn't on the US payroll and neither is the founder of Airbnb.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Believe it or not, the nebulous nature of the department actually is what makes them more likely to have qualified immunity because their role hasn't been "clearly established" by case law. You couldn't even talk say what "actions as a part of their duties" are. I'm not a fan of qualified immunity.

As far as suing the government over what DOGE does, good luck figuring out where an agency deputized by executive order fits in here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Tort_Claims_Act

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 weeks ago

Fun fact #3: If he sues he will be thrown in prison

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[-] tibi@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This sounds oddly similar to the early days of SS which started as an organized bunch of goons serving the nazi party as security guards.

[-] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To be clear for any dummies like me who just woke up and are reading this, this comment is comparing DOGE to the early days of the Nazi Schutzstaffel, not comparing Greg's bravery to the early days of Social Security

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[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

The Daily Beast is really burying the actual story with that headline. The article is about Musk declaring alive people “dead” in a federal database. A database that is referenced by the whole world.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Well, I suppose it's time for the banks to move away from using Social Security numbers as a form of identification. Honestly, they should have done this years ago. SSNs were never intended to be used as a form of ID, but they were convenient, so banks did it anyway. But if Social Security records are no longer reliable, they no longer reliably list living and dead people, then banks will need to move to other forms of identification.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 8 points 2 weeks ago

I think the rest of the world will stop trusting the US's word about the status of anything. The boy who cried wolf has contracted rabies.

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[-] dick_fineman@discuss.online 25 points 2 weeks ago

We're only a few months in, but this administration already needs Nuremberg Trials with the death-penalty as an option. These folks are actual overt traitors to our country, they are the enemies from within. And they should NOT get to just comfortably retire...they all need to be on death row.

[-] Jerb322@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago
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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like assault and maybe other legal issues. They aren’t LEOs.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 17 points 2 weeks ago

Eventually someone is going to shoot some DOGE agents dead and I won't be mad.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

He who saves his Country does not violate any Law

Not guilty

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[-] khannie@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Absolute fucking hero. If my time ever comes I hope I have the same moral fortitude.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Big balls attacks again. The stunlock intensifies

[-] lemmylump@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Somebody call Seabass to kick this doge pricks ass.

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[-] spongebue@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Tell me more about how DOGE isn't actually making the decisions in any department

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