No such thing as a death cross for a company that is now embedded at the highest level of the federal government. Don't get too excited, ass hat and the swasticars aren't going anywhere. If you havent dumped your Tesla yet, get fucked at this point.
There is only so much they can do to prop it up. If noone is buying them, and noone wants the stock, its going to go down short of the govt literally buying the stock and handing it over to musk.
That unfortunately would not surprise me. How sad.
Tesla could literally never sell another car again, and it wouldn't matter as long as people continue to buy the stock.
It's been wildly over priced for a very long time, so clearly the people who are keeping it afloat aren't interested in whether the company is actually profitable or not.
I think those people were only buying and holding cause the stock price kept going up regardless of logic and reason. These people wanted to make money.
If they think they might lose money, I think they would probably sell.
You're thinking rational. Tesla prices skyrocketed during the covid pandemic when wallstreetbets was gaining traction. That's probably all you need to know.
If I recall correctly, it skyrocketed right after they posted their first profit. People took this as an indicator that Tesla was only going to go up exponentially from here.
It was actually way overpriced even before this point.
"I like money" - Frito
Til magically the government starts buying all its cars from them, and they start making tanks and drones for the military.
and they start making tanks
That would be crazy. That'd be like letting Boeing make your fighter jets...
Dear god.
~~Was there not already some deal with the State Department for the purchase of "armored vehicles" from Tesla to the tune of 400 million USD? Or did I just hallucinate that?~~
ETA: Apprently not true: https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/02/14/state-department-armored-teslas/
It's not not true. Elon was going to do it, but it got attention and they had to back down. I'm sure they will do it again but more quietly and ramp it up slower to not catch as much flack.
Cyber truck USPS fleet vehicles.
SAD
Standard American Diet XD
I have to be honest, as someone who is not fully immersed in the financial markets, the chart pattern reading kinda strikes me as astrology for guys in suits.
I feel this deep in my bones
astrology for guys in suits
Naw they already made that, it's called the "Myers-Briggs Type Indicator".
Different parts of astrology. The MBTI stuff replaces the horoscope/personality side of things, whereas chart reading replaces the future readings.
And apparently my team at work. It's more of a curiosity (oh, you're somewhat extroverted? Interesting!), and it gives us a chance to ask questions to get to know a new hire.
If you're making actual decisions based on the MBTI test, then that's on you. But it's kinda fun to compare.
It's used widely for actual hiring decisions. If you're qualified for a job but they want an INTJ but you're an ENTJ according the overgrown Facebook quiz, you get a rejection letter.
It's unethical as fuck, and absolutely rampant in corporate America.
Now, as a team building exercise or role play to get to know potential clientele, yeah no harm.
Wow, really? We only do it like a couple weeks after hiring, and you can respectfully refuse. We just do it as a "get to know you" meeting so we can get the team familiar with the new hire.
To a large extent it is, the major difference being that when people take actions based of these signs, it influences which way the chart goes next, unlike the planets, which do not care the slightest what people do based on their actions. Thus you can end up making a lot of money if your actions are 1) correctly anticipating subsequent actions by other people and 2) sufficiently in advance of other actions. Which makes inside trading and pump-and-dump schemes great ways to get filthy rich, if you find yourself in a position to be able to pull that off. Or if you are lucky. Or if you have made a name for yourself and everyone else just assume you know what you are doing and follows (Warren Buffet comes to mind).
That makes sense. Essentially, there are things that are influenced by perception and those that are immune to perception.
Yes, and by the sheer existence of the concept of a "death cross", and now that it has happened for the Tesla stock, people will act as if whatever a "death cross" predicts will come to pass. So even though there was some correlation before someone formulated it as a concept, now the response will be different because people will act on it. If enough people believes it, it will probably just accelerate the process as they will seek to sell off before the downturn, pushing the prices down. Which is the way the Tesla stock should go, so I am all for this cross of death.
Oh my God this is so f-ing true. It makes me think a lot of sociology classes I took in college where we'd talk about the artificiality of money how it's only meaningful because we have collectively decided it is. The folks who try to make it all scientific with lots of elaborate analytics and complex charts are basically just engaging a social math exercise.
Money is an emotional thing. Do I believe that this coin / bit of paper / number on a website is something that I can exchange for goods and services? If not enough people believe that, that currency will collapse.
Mind you, not using money is inefficient at scale. Sending the bag of potatoes that I've grown in my garden this month to my internet provider for continued shitposting privileges only goes so far.
I would like to remind everyone, as people seem to keep forgetting, Tesla means nothing to Elon. It could go to zero and it wouldn't affect him.
Twitter, or X, means nothing to Elon. It could collapse and shut down and it wouldn't affect him.
SpaceX is his baby. Nothing even comes close. Starlink alone guarantees he will always be one of the richest men in the world.
That's a testable hypothesis: burn Tesla, Twitter, SpaceX etc to the ground. We can measure his reaction to each, and compare.
Not exactly I’m pretty sure he’s using his stocks as collateral for lots of stuff.
Tesla means nothing to Elon.
Then why did he ask Trump to shill Teslas for him? He definitely cares, for narcissistic ego reasons if not financial ones.
No, he cares for Twitter.
SpaceX lets him pretend he's some great tech genius, but Twitter is what gives him the validation he craves. All the pro-Elon bots and stans there who fellate him feed his narcissistic desire to be loved.
That's why he "sold" Twitter to xAI. So if Tesla does tank hard enough and he gets margin called, he can't be forced to sell Twitter to cover it.
If Elon is such a genius, let's see him stream Kerbal Space Program. I would love to see him get to Mun and back.
Now this is a stream I would enjoy watching. I have the KSP platinum on PS4, I know exactly how difficult this is.
In fact, since it's his big fantasy, let's see a Duna return trip.
Given his track record with real rockets and real rocket scientists, I would consider it a win for him to make it off the launchpad and back in one piece. 😂
Isn't this a ponzi sceme? He uses his starlink as his SpaceX customer. Without Starlink, SpaceX would be a lot less profitable.
Which is probably why he wants to hollow out NASA and have SpaceX take their place.
Yes. But didn't the entire stock market (SPY) do the same thing on the daily chart?
But if they specifically call out Tesla, they get more clickbait engagement, plus it now qualifies as a tech story! Double win!
They actually lampshade this further down the article, at the point where clickbaiting has fulfilled its goal.
It's almost nostalgic being mildly annoyed at some slightly sub-par journalistic ethics displayed by Gizmodo and company. Feels quaint and nostalgic now. I honestly didn't know Gizmodo was still running, if I'm perfectly honest. It's been quite the decade.
It's only been twelve weeks
It has been a lot longer since journalistic standards started their decline.
"...the dreaded “death cross,” a historical indicator of a likely downturn for the company.
"Business Insider called out the event, which has been hitting the stock indexes of some major players over the last couple of weeks as tariff trouble has hit just about everyone. Tesla is just the latest to see the symbol of bearishness, which occurs when a company’s 50-day moving average crosses and drops below the 200-day average.x
The S&P 500 and Nasdaq 100 both showed it as well on Monday, as the indexes continue to fluctuate in wild and somewhat unpredictable ways
Clickbait nonsense. The market as a whole is falling and these publications choose to instead write articles about each individual stock that generates headlines. TSLA stock is still up 7% for the month and a whopping 57% for the last year.
the dreaded “death cross,” a historical indicator of a likely downturn for the company
[...] occurs when a company’s 50-day moving average crosses and drops below the 200-day average.
Fuck Tesla and all that, but holy shit is that standard ever a depressing indicator of to just how reliant late stage capitalism is on endless growth that a tiny dip after half a year of stagnation is a reliable indicator of a company's imminent failure.
you can either have a system with loans and endless growth or a system where actual ownership is required and stagnation is allowed.
Fuck "stagnation", how about "being satisfied"?
Investors want to make money, if it looks like they can’t then they are going to find a different company
That’s why Capitalism was so against people with wealth and so pro skilled labour
:)
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