They're both trump supporters, so don't feel, the brain damage was a pre existing condition

I know that was a lot to write so I want to acknowledge I read it all, appreciate the effort.

The existence and interactions of your group of activists is fascinating, I admit I lean towards radical inclusivity so it sounds a bit wild to me, but I also get and respect how difficult it is to maintain group cultures and where exclusivity is necessary and productive.

I fully agree that there will likely be some unity under Trump out of necessity and that it will unfortunately probably be temporary (can't help but think about Biden getting the most votes ever being strong evidence towards that)

Not much follow up except to say you seem like a good person, hope whatever influence you seek is supported.

Well said, and I didn't intend to say you are tearing down anyone.

The only relevancy to you is your statement about organizing I think is very important, but the blocker imo is that complex issues require working together in ambiguity and I'm seeing less evidence than ever that progressives who very much agree on what a problem is, and most of the solution to that problem, they then start squabbling rather than working together.

I don't disagree, but I think that's still the cart before the horse.

People in general need to stop tearing down people who are closest to them if any complex issue is to ever get solved imo. After the US election all you see is blame getting thrown around, and most of it (that I've seen) is blaming people closest in values for not approaching issues in the exact way the blamer wants them to.

Progressives seem like they will always struggle to make anything complex and meaningful happen when they tear each other down, meanwhile bigotry and regressiveness is pretty singular and easy for their opposition to mobilize.

I also hope that those similar to your ideals focus on building you up for your common values, rather than arm chair criticisms while ignoring the deeply problematic other side of the equation.

I wish you all the luck in gathering voters behind your cause

Is anyone really that uninformed though?

People voted for the racist rapist. Ignorant would be a component

It's really fascinating how so many online have all the answers, and it would be so easy, and yet, you're not out there doing it

America voted for Trump, but you're going to blame the people who were working extremely hard to offer a viable alternative?

Wow, next you're going to say Orange lives don't matter.

Jokes aside, agreed, tolerating intolerance has little difference from supporting intolerance.

Yes, if we don't let the Nazis back in then we're no better than them!

I understand where you're coming from but I think there is an atmosphere tinging the conversation (and there are a lot of threads happening so maybe I'm the one doing that, not trying to be perfect here)

I'm not bitching about voters. I'm saying people are blaming Democrats, or Harris, or whoever they want to, but one side showed up with more people. I see you are continuing that as well by saying she ignored her own base.

More people showed up for what Trump was selling. Harris was certainly not ignoring her base in favor of the Cheneys but I think you mean they relatively to your expectations (?).

If she were leaning more right, then I guess that was the correct choice because that's who showed up to vote.