[-] Jackary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago

Or, maybe, you could keep an open mind and see why she and... Rod Blagojevich Samuel D. Thompson Rubén Díaz Sr (btw, this guy is Puerto Rican I figured I should mention this since people think Trump will... genocide those peoples, or some nonsense) Kwame Kilpatrick Andrew Stein

All other democrats endorsed him.

What a disgusting mentality. I guess you just deny those human's opinions now right? The dynamic of those individuals is now lost to you because they endorsed "big orange scary" - correct? How disgustingly rude of you to those people's dynamic lol.

[-] Jackary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago

It isnt about the "safe-space" it's about the hasty judgement of someone and banning of them all based on suspicion.

So, say I was anti-Trump and I posted there... I would still be misunderstood as an "other" and labeled, banned, etc. Then have to appeal a ban for a judgement incorrectly pre-passed on me.

Which is, yes, 1000000% the same basis of mentality, the bias of a group, that people do when being racist, sexist, etc. They arent that way for 0 reason, they rationalize stereotypes as truths and then deny the entire group. That is this, in a nutshell.

[-] Jackary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 months ago

That was definitely a move in that direction, but one conservative move does not a conservative make. He has done some ratherrrr progressive things too. Some of his ideologies also align to Democratic Party ideologies 2000-2012. (Namely his views on immigration (open, but strict; no more migration) are similar to Obama's). Row v Wade being a 'make this a state's concern' was a weird choice, but it also aligns to the gay marriage ideology of Obama's first term.

i could totally be rusty on some of the above - but, he is way more lenient than a truly conservative man would be. His stance on weed/crypto shock me as they are so progressive.

[-] Jackary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 months ago

Yes.. I listed two core differences. Weed is extremely anti religion in many ways lol. Crypto is extremely progressive economical reform. You seemed so shocked by saying "wow" I figured you needed an explanation.

Immigration his thoughts are rather normal on. Migration =/= immigration. I dont think anyone wants migrants to continue spilling into a country that is giving all of its money away...

Yknow before Trump both Obama and Clinton contributed to the border wall? I guess, by your logic, they must be super conservative!

[-] Jackary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 months ago

having private discussion groups is different than banning someone from contribution simply because you think they might be something.

You are inadvertently supporting the same bases of bias that racial segregation came form.

And seeing as how everything is an echo-chamber nowadays, I am not surprised why that filter is established. It isnt always some great-evil yknow.

[-] Jackary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago

I agree but with your second paragraph, the question: Por qué no los dos?

Yes, it's kinda ill-natured on both. I dont see why that takes away from another (if that is what you're implying, sorry if I misunderstood).

[-] Jackary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 months ago

People get their opinons and info from memes.

It isnt even rare to see people who think trump will cause genocide or evict all citizen mexican-americans... that's nonsensical, and common. It is no wonder that Orange Man Bad is so common when people are told he is bad 24/7 without proper proof or context.

[-] Jackary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 months ago

I dont really see this as a 180 on their views though. Gabbard was a very moderate democrat, and while trump appeals to conservatives - he is in many ways a very progressive republican (his views on crypto, and weed, are extremely anti-republican...)

[-] Jackary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ah yes, a limiting label by someone who pretends centrists cant have negative views about one side or the other.

You are proof of concept. I vote Democrat resoundingly, and the one time i didnt it was for Gabbard. But I can still admit that I see this shit way more on the left-hand-side of American Politics.

If I was a democrat who said this would you suddenly label me as a republican? Foolish mentality...

[-] Jackary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A tantrum? What? Do you always hyperbolize?

Also an automated process to silence a community of people is disgusting morality. Just cause someone disagrees with you doesnt mean you silence them entirely. That's awful.

[-] Jackary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago

Do you... genuinely think this woman was a Russian Agent?

What?

[-] Jackary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Silencing people who disagree with your side of the spectrum is a kill-all-others mentality. It is a slippery slope, and is authoritarian.

Also... how is advocating for freedom of speech sided? A centrist can make centrist observations. I may end up voting democrat, but this doesnt mean I dont see through the pandering. The same can be said to both sides...

Edit: I should add, it's the hasty labelling of me as an "other" for.. a misunderstanding (my comment on r/trump has 0 to do with Trump, it was actually about this exact thing going on), applying me to a group and restricting me - that is the Kill All Others I am seeing here.

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I made 1 comment ever on r/trump which I am not even subbed to...

Imagine being brandished an enemy over a misunderstanding, and banned from an entire community. Especially via an automated method they admit isnt perfect? Now I must appeal? For what again? -- That is Kill All Others mentality, and I am labeled the Other.

For context: I try to be a centrist, a proper one with proper devil's advocation. I usually end up voting Democrat, but I like moderate Democrats and progressive Republicans. (But to be fair, even r/centrist over on Reddit is very... American-Left ideology). I think case-by-case application of ideologies to scenarios is best.

Here is them muting me for my shocked reply:

EDIT: Just wanted to specify with the above picture, I do not believe any side is correct, hence my use of quotation marks. Choosing sides at all, especially in a two-party system, is a mess and we have been warned this many times by many different successful leaders/philosophers. Even our founding fathers warned this... I would say this to an alt-right just as quickly as I do the alt-left.

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