Who keeps down voting you? It's weird. It's not me. But I noticed someone seems to keep down voting you. I upvoted your post to try to counter act that. That's annoying since they obviously even part of our conversation. Anyway, I hear you and what you're saying. The problem is I don't see it. Let's take tariffs for example. I'm opposed to tariffs because it's a market distortion, and we've always known that. Which party do I vote for to stop tariffs. And not just on China but in general. We should be promoting free trade, after all that's what made USA great to begin with. Yet now that our manufacturing isn't up to snuff we decide that the solution is tariffs? Look at what happened to the Russian Lada. In the end the only way to keep that company running was to stop the tariffs and start buying foreign products into their production.

But that's just one example. Obviously the cease fire is another and so on and so forth. Yes, there are minor differences in policies, but none of the ones that I really care about, save abortion (I can't even believe that's a thing right now). But the problem is the parties use these tiny differences to pretend that they're different. Where's the policies to support small business? What about giving small businesses a tax break so they can catch up?

I'm sure we can all find those pet issues that they do fight over, but that's their trick. They go out of their way to force you to focus on the small things and ignore the bigger issues. It's not new, but OMG is it spreading like wild fire.

We are a nation based on trade. If we destroy our trade, we destroy the fabric of the nation. And everyone is so focused on destroying trade.

I'm curious. When you read articles about how great the economy in the US is and it's just the voters that don't understand, do you agree? Do you believe the US government no matter how badly they do? If you don't believe the US government on this, why do you believe what their propaganda says about their enemies?

What do you mean not ambitious? What China is doing is literally the most ambitious thing man kind has ever seen. China wants to give all countries the right to decide for themselves. China has stated multiple times that they will never interfere with a sovereign nation's right to decide what is right form their own nation. That means whatever a nation's internal will is, that's what decisions that country will get to make. This has never happened in history. For as long as we have records, we have always had strong nations impose their will on weak nations. If China gets it's way, that will go away. The only obstacle for China of course is that last super power that has been imposing it's will for almost 50 years now...

I wouldn't say China is backed in to a corner. Like I said they've been planning this for a while. If anything, this shows China's plan is working. Ironically, China's plan is pretty much freedom for all sovereign nations. But as we see with what's going on, the world is choosing the freedom China is offering.

Yes I did. Here's a few quotes from that article.

While China has a law against domestic violence, it fails to adequately protect victims, especially LGBTQ+ people, say advocates, with crimes often dismissed as family affairs

And

Li Tingting (left) and Teresa at their wedding reception in Beijing, China, July 2015. Li, 25, a prominent rights activist announced their marriage in an effort to push for LGBTQ rights in China

As well as it gives several examples of abusive families who manipulate the law to attack those who help their children. Like the trans woman who tried to protect the run away trans woman.

I said it's not good. But it's not the government pushing this. It straight says so in the article in the quotes I'm posting.

Well, Chinese cities will seem western and modern to you as well. I have family in China also. The media twists everything that's happening and well, I'm sick of it. I guess in some ways this is just me acting out.

My biggest issue is whenever USA has beef with China for God knows what, Taiwan gets dragged into whatever is going on. Leave us alone, that's all I want. In this case it's semiconductors.

The first Taiwan strait crisis was because USA wanted to beat up on China for the Korean war. Second crisis was a continuation of the first one.

The third Taiwan strait crisis was similar to Nancy Pelosi's visit.

So from my personal point of view, it's constantly the US stirring up trouble. Not everyone in Taiwan shares my views on this stuff. I'm at this point only talking what I believe.

But we all tend to agree to just keep our freedoms and the status quo.

*Edit I should add I dislike both China and the US and think they're bullies. They're bullies who bully each other and uses Taiwan as a flashpoint.

That is correct. Taiwanese people are generally ok with the situation and have what we want so don't stir the pot. Also, I realize in that post I wrote pro-China. That's incorrect, both the TPP and KMT are pro-negotiation with China which I am too and I dislike the DPP who wants to disengage. However, technically all parties are against independence.

To add my own personal opinion, I want people to stop talking about war and conflict with China because I think it's hurting Taiwanese businesses. I believe if we just let things lay and don't stoke the flames, Taiwan would prosper more.

*Edit: To expand upon my anger at people constantly saying China is going to war with Taiwan, who would invest in a nation that is going to war? It creates a situation where people think twice about investments. Better to keep our status quo and to stop talking about war entirely. Taiwan is free, this election clearly shows what we do and want is up to us. Stoking the flames of war only causes people to want to visit less and invest less. Taiwan is a beautiful place that is wonderful to visit. But if you think missiles are going to be lodged at Taiwan, you're less likely to be a tourist. This is why I'm on the side of 60% of Taiwanese and with the TPP and KMT, TPP more than KMT but as a third party they get less votes. OK I'm rambling but I think you get it.

Jack Ma is fine and is still a multi-billionaire. What about it? And rubber ducks and Winnie the Pooh are both still big sellers in China. Again, not sure your point.

I'm not trying to dunk on anyone. I just hate when facts are distorted.

Maybe try reading the articles I posted. In the second one, Eric Schmit from Google explains the problem. Essentially Huawei's 5G covers more spectrums than western ones. So you'll never get the full performance from western 5G making people like you think 5G is inferior when it's really the poor implementation.

*Edit: I'll also add that was the hilarity of the US 5G knocking out airplanes. Since the US can't use as varied spectrums as Chinese hardware can, they ended up interfering with US airplanes.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/tech/airlines-5g-flights-canceled-explainer/index.html

If it sounds vague to you, that's my point. Everyone knows so little about how China actually works that they can't fathom anything besides the strawmen that they put up. Here's a simple question. Xi has to be voted on every 5 years. Who is doing the voting here? I can tell you right now it's not the general population.