lemmy never asked for an NDA, facebook asked for an NDA. This is your difference right there.
fedi admins meeting with Meta under NDAs is shit, that's what it is. It's effectively giving Meta power over fedi, by giving Meta power over what fedi admins can and cannot share with their communities.
Why did they sign an NDA, tell us!
If you think that 16 million users day 1 is business as usual then you are naive.
What OP did not mention is the fedipact. There are seemingly admins of the fediverse signing an NDA with facebook. The fedipact is about admins swearing that they will never federate with facebook.
So of course if an admin signs an agreement with facebook and changes the conditions, the protocol, benefits from credits to improve the infra then it's a different threat and different debate.
Federating with Meta without an agreement is a laughable science fiction scenario, but federating with an agreement is dangerous for the users.
I would treat meta like any other instance, if its a source of headache then deferate.
If we federate with meta then our instance will simply stop responding because of the workload alone.
Everyone agreeing to defederate from meta won't mean they stop. It won't prevent EEE.
No. If we are talking about the EEE side of things then we must defederate. If facebook federates with the intention of EEE then they will ALSO bribe the admins.
Right now, Facebook is giving me a chance to interact with my friends without using Facebook.
You won't be able to talk on threads if you don't first sign a legal agreement with Facebook.
You know who else want to talk to their friends: The islamic state. Do you really think for a second that Threads will federate with an instance of the islamic state? Threads won't federate. Why would they federate? Tell us. Zuck doesn't want you, you talk bad about facebook, he is glad that you are out.
No fediverse server can handle the amount of data of threads. I don't think you realize the size of these project.
Meta will never federate for legal reasons alone.
With this I agree. 1.2bn users is way more noise than I want to experience and I will, personally block the domain. As a kbin user, you'll have the tools available for that as well.
I can't imagine how a kbin users would be wanting to watch facebook memes.
I sent a message to the owner of /m/hardware to start the fire. He has no comment in 3 weeks of inactivity after he created the magazine, I guess I can wait for a long time.
This magic moment when while talking about "the adventures of awkwardtehturtle on reddit" we realized that he was among us, downvoting all our stuff. Someone pointed at the activity tab "hey guys, look!" and it was a reveal for us.
Well, when all your posts will start with a minus 5 and become invisible maybe you will start to care? Because you WILL have your haters too. Some people are that crazy.
What you should appreciate is the number of argumented answers you had to your question with so few one liners made of "Dan pleeease". Followed by the inevitable clickbait articles. This will probably not last.