It's not just memes but also unrelated content to the magazine. There are spammers out there, hunting for quantity.

The short answer is probably: you can't. You say you don't want to block the mag, but how would you make the difference between useful posts and spam from the same mag? You can't, it's just too much content to sort out.

The only reason why we did not defederate was a lack of content. Once kbin.social is filled with enough users federation won't be necessary anymore and it will be seen as a way to introduce cheap content to prime newborn instances.

Can you tell the difference between lemmy.ml, beesomething and lemmyworld or the cohort of attempts at lemmysomehing? No. There isn't much difference. The idea was that instances would specialize into a theme but it did not happen. People want the mass. They want to be where the buzz happens.

Yes, in theory you can use any instance as a point of entry but in reality people want to join the biggest party. So the only difference between instances is mostly moderation. And somehow the initial link that people saw in their original community to find their new instance. Like many of us did with /r/redditmigration

This is all about sane default settings. If your instance allows everything and let you chose what you don't want to see then you are trapped into a whack-a-mole game against a million moles. You will lose your mind blocking stuff constantly.

Either

• we defederate spammy instances, like you mentioned lemmy.world
• we block a mag, and other mags from the same instance will popup anyway.

People won't have the patience to block the meme spammers. In short: the blacklist system we are using no cannot handle the increasing load of meh content, we have to use the whitelist method.

In the end it will come to a federation made of instances with the same moderation policy. It will work because this policy will enforce the best content possible and will attract the people looking for quality content. So the people complaining about "defederation being a fascist practice" will stay on the old global federation, nothing will be forced upon them, while other people looking for quality will silently leave for instances with better federation standards. The most motivated people will bootstrap the concept, probably people passionate with hardware or another hobby.

Lemmy.world won't be on their federation list. Too bad for them but it's their fault for creating an account on a spammy instance.

This state where everyone federates with everyone (except criminals) comes to an end. We will have many different federations, not a single one.

There is only one metric for a social network, the number of users.

Youtube channel? subscribers

Twitch channel? subscribers

Twitter? Followers

That's about who gathers the most people, end of the line. If an instance managed to become a pole of gravity then it will be worth money.

And before you tell me that you can subscribe to a different instance, well, you can also subscribe to a different social network.

but fine, we disagree.

Wait for more tools and instances, and the leaders will emerge.

They gain nothing from buying an instance. Users don't matter. They're just as reachable as another federated instance.

ok, cool.

remember how the lemmy.ml admin asked that people join other instances.

lemmy.ml is overloaded, use other instances instead

People want to be with people, if you don't get that then you don't get social networks.

You miss-represent the fediverse. Users aren't locked in. If someone buys one instance and you don't like it, you move.

Maybe you will but people in their majority won't do that. It's too much operations. Also they might not even be aware of the transfer. Plus if an instance offers good services there might be a technological price to pay for leaving, like leaving instagram. All instances are not equal, specially if there are more interfaces in preparation.

The emails revealed that Zuckerberg wanted to buy Instagram as it was becoming a threat to Facebook.

"Facebook, by its own admission saw Instagram as a threat that could potentially siphon business away from Facebook," Nadler said during the hearing on Wednesday.

"So rather than compete with it, Facebook bought it. This is exactly the type of anti-competitive acquisition the antitrust laws were designed to prevent," Nadler added.

Facebook bought Instagram for $1 billion in 2012, a shocking sum at that time for a company with 13 employees,

Facebook bought the adoption, they bought the users.

So what will you do about an instance called "rofl.lol", which is huge, which has a lot of fans locally who want to keep interacting with it and which also allows spammers? Will you keep federating or will you defederate it?

If you don't defederate this will become and endless whack-a-mole of bans with a drop of quality.

Do you have any source for this marketplace of instances?

I never talked about a marketplace of instances.

Well, if you think it's good content then comment on it. If OP sees that he has no traction in xyz instance then he will probably leave it behind and stop cross posting.

Again the best option is to sort through a script and select one based on your own settings.

Install threads ffs and be done with it.

Also I didn't see any mention of the volume of data that threads represents. Have we forgotten how IT works here?

Probably bad. It centralizes the logins on mastodon and give them power over all the other tools that depend on them. If a gafam purchases a big mastodon instance then he also purchases a lot of accounts too.

There is a good case here to defederate every instance by default and only federate based on a white list.

There are criminals in the fediverse obviously and we should split from them immediately. Don't forget that their content is copied to the servers of Ernest automatically.

Again, Beehaw defederated 380 instances and it's not just because they disagree with their political stance, but mostly because of this kind of horrible content. Which will come from another new instance, and another, etc, etc. Which means that we need to update Ernest regularly to protect his servers. Or make the default setting as defederated.