[-] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

An alternative to do what exactly? To just follow people? What about you follow no one?

[-] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

In the end it will be all about federating with the right communities and not about federating everyone anymore.

A lot of people who are defending "federate everyone" do it in the name of "fear of missing" and want the numbers at all cost. They are borderline addict to infinite content, but they are a danger to quality posting. You cannot mass post AND care about the quality of what you post. It takes time to find a good article to post.

Even here we will soon read about what Elon Musk had for breakfast and will post it in "tech". Some people want content, whatever the quality of what they read, even the title is enough for them. And sadly the current vote system works in their favor.

My guess is many of us will leave kbin for a more tight, content focused community. Also better tools will come up anyway.

[-] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

"Fear of missing out"

We are not the cool guys therefore we don't exist and the party happens without us elsewhere.

[-] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Or give all your gold to a [deleted] account

Or give is to u/spez, so he can enjoy all the features of his own platform

[-] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

No one will type pchardware. But we could have added links to other non-IT magazines.

[-] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

The name hardware was kind of a "catch all" to answer generic questions and to give exposition to other smaller niche magazines like monitors, memory, ssd, motherboards, datahoarders, homelab, you name it. Calling it something else would have defeated the purpose.

[-] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I'd at least hope you were arguing in good faith, but you're obviously not

Can't you just say "I disagree with you" instead of accusing people of arguing in bad faith? What's so hard with explaining why you left reddit?

Being in an instance with people who share similar topics is fine. Defederating from general instances, though, just puts you in a small bubble.

Wow, what a colossal waste of time it was. I spent time explaining the thing and that's all I've got in return.

I don't understand why you reject that any other solution other than defederation might work when it has worked for Mastodon, Pixelfed, etc.

The mass of content is different, the type of content is different. I don't know why you compare them. Reddit is the closest example of what we are aiming for and you refused to answer why you left reddit.

I'm done, I'm not spending more time with this.

[-] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

ETA: I love that there is no algorithm showing me more of what I've already engaged with or more of what it thinks I want. I like being exposed to new stuff that I didn't know I wanted to read about.

And the mass of this new content is memes and low effort. There is no miracle. It worked at first because of the people who joined initially, we left reddit for a reason. But some people are already feeling the crowd effect and the fediverse hasn't reached his maximum intensity yet, far from it. So expect the default fediverse federation to get worse and worse, because spammers want a public.

I see no other direction for the people who want quality content to create their own federation. Sure you can put some limiters here and there but the fundamental problem will remain. No one ever said that everyone should federate with everyone.

I think we should give it time and see how things go, but there will probably be a lot of changes on the federation thing.

[-] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I don't think your answer addresses what the OP is talking about at all and it's getting kinda scary that the immediate answer to every small issue people have on the Fediverse seems to be defederation. People do love their echo chambers apparently.

I did address the point. My conclusion is it cannot be done reliably by an automated system and that we have the choice of blocking manually or defederating.

What I want, and I think that's what the OP is talking about, is simply to have a way to slow down the posts from the more active communities - kinda like how Reddit didn't show you all of the content of a very active sub when you were on your main feed, but only the hottest threads, and you'd get a mix of threads from very big active subreddits and smaller more inactive subreddits. I love the LOTR meme communities, for example, but I don't want to see all of their posts on my main feed, since it drowns out discussions from other smaller communities. All we need for that is a limit to the amount of threads you can be shown from every community on your main feed.

Then I already mentioned why it cannot work reliably: "how would you make the difference between useful posts and spam from the same mag? You can't, it's just too much content to sort out."

So you want the insightful posts being hidden from a mag because someone else in the same mag spammed memes? Because that's what you will get. Sorry but I don't want that. I want to be out of this meme bubble. We are slowly encountering the same problem than reddit had.

I dislike the idea of "federations devoted to a topic"

Nope, I did not say "devoted to a topic". I said "In the end it will come to a federation made of instances with the same moderation policy."

I said "moderation policy", I didn't say "topic". I said that hobbyists would start the process, but they will probably federate with other hobbyists from other domain as long as they share the same moderation policy.

/all will soon become unusable anyway. It was great at the beginning, but the more people join and the more it will become unusable. You didn't really think that all instances would always be federated, right?

[-] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

The stalker paradise!

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