Sorry to interject, I just want to check if I'm understanding this sub-thread correctly. I was skimming and didn't immediately realize what you were talking about:

So someone asked what kind of discussion isn't tolerated.

You brought up people discussing wanting to cut down their personal porn consumption.

You get downvoted and people imply you're just some conservative wanting to preach about the evils of masturbation. Which is a complete mischaracterization of what you're saying.

I don't follow nofap discussions etc. as it's thankfully not a problem for me personally but I know porn and masturbation addictions are very real and detrimental to one's well-being. I'm a bit stunned to learn that you get this much flak for acknowledging it here. I'm sorry to hear this :/

Okay, thank you for explaining.

I admit I don't get it, but maybe I'll consider reading that book. It seems I had a mistaken idea about Buddhism. Or at least Zen Buddhism.

But aren't there things that you can objectively know to be true? Wouldn't this just lead to believing whatever you want to believe?

You say you were "intellectually honest" so I'm curious what it was about Zen that appealed to that kind of approach?

Your avatar is cool and pretty tho, so at least I think you have good taste!

Oh my :3c