Probably George, maybe Ringo.

Ah, I see.

Gotcha friend.

Sorry bud, but you just can't fly in hot with a dickish reply to someone else's comment and expect them to extend you any grace. Especially when you're not even actually replying to the actual comment but your gross misreading of it.

Since apparently I'm blocked. For any body else who might stumble upon this one. Lovable's assertion that any comparison between cattle slavery and prison slavery somehow diminishes the suffering and plight of the former is a real head scratcher. Especially since the prison industrial complex in the United States was built to be an institutional replacement for the systems of oppression that were banned by the 13th amendment.

You see, thing is, not everyone has the privilege of being able to go to college right after highschool. I worked at UPS for 19 years while my partner went to college and we raised two kids.

I quit when they needed to move for them to complete a post doc. I could have either stayed behind to live alone for 2 years doing a job that payed well but was unfulfilling, or I could take the opportunity to find something new. I choose the latter.

We moved, I took a job at the art museum on the campus where my wife was working. A few months later the pandemic hit. I was privileged/lucky enough to get paid to stay at home the duration of lockdown. During that time, I got to think a lot about what was important to me and what I wanted to do with my life going forward. I didn't want to go back to busting my as in the name of capital. Wrecking my body in the name of shareholder value. I wanted to do something rewarding, and in the service of others. That lead me to social work. So I went back to school in my 40's working towards a masters in social work with a focus on community and labor organizing.

You have to open your mind to different paradigms my friend. Everybody path is different and going through life doing things the correct way is overrated.

"Profess to have learned nothing about leftism since the..." WTF are you talking about? really just confused as to what you mean here

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Sure, maybe, I would argue that that's pretty debatable, whether true or not. If that was the premise of your question though, you didn't do a good job of making that clear.

Yeah... Maybe think a bit on who it is that's actually doing the devaluing here.

Now, now, just calm down there Charlie.

I said nothing about prison slavery. You're reading things into my post that are not there. The point I was trying to make is that the last the last living person who existed as property under what people think of as Slavery in the United States died in 1975. That's either not even or just barely two generations ago.

But the rest of your statement, yeah....idk. I'll just say that people are still being kidnapped, shipped and sold in this country. The mechanisms are different, the justifications are different. The underlying reasons? Not so much.

Like what you like. I do not like this record. It was the last Megadeth record I bought and I've listened to everyone since, at least once.

I think the worst part of that album is Dave's voice. I didn't need Mustaine to be a better singer. To me, the more he tried to be, the more obviously deficent his voice was.

You're completely right. I did the American thing that Americans are wont to do. Apologies.

Disclaimer: I am a registered Democrat, but do not consider myself one. Where I live the Democratic primaries are the election. I've never had the opportunity to cast a nonprimary vote for a candidate that represents me.

For me to vote for a 3rd party candidate for the presidency would require that there be a leftist third party willing to build power from the ground up. Local->County->State->Federal until that happens there really isn't a point.

Sanders understood this, that's why he ran through the Dem's primary system.

That's why Jill Stein isn't a serious 3rd party candidate: there is no party.

The Green party is less relevant power wise than the first time she ran. It's a vanity candidacy. Organizing is not glamorous work. It's hard. It's slow. It's frustrating. Stein hasn't shown any interest in doing that work.

In recent history, Ross Peort and the Reform party probably did the most in this direction, but he had billions of dollars to pay other to do the hard work for him.

We tend to over-mythologize voting in this country. It's a tool. It's not sacred. You use it to try to build the best future you can with the parts you have to work with.

~~Slavery~~ American chattel slavery.