[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Get that heresy out of here, pope or nope!

E: to be clear, im talking here about my own personal experience growing up catholic, not talking about all the different types of christianity. Im aware of a few of them, but not as huge on the details, I know they went to different primary schools. (The joys of being Dutch, look up 'verzuiling' (pillarisation iirc). Less a thing so now I think, I oddly experienced a vestige of it re primary school).

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah been a while since I was confirmed (or believed) but the free will part of that was considered important from what I remember. So not only being a decent person, but also the choice to believe in and act on the faith.

Unrelated, but it is odd how much I have been thinking back about all that the last few years, esp more so the last year. Lot of it is due to the US gov being really keep on getting excommunications back on the menu. (Note this doesn't make the church good in any way, like even if we ignore the coverup of the pedophilia, they went full anti trans recently).

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago

I was not giving real advice on how to firebomb people. Hope that was clear.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago

On a different note, 'our god means you have no free will' is also quite opposed to what I got from Christianity.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Waterballoon molotovs.

And indeed on nr 2. Even sillier is of course that the AI doom people thought they could control people like this.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah, because putting _'s around something is another way to your text TIL and all that.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 4 days ago

The post after that is also a bit worrying

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Don't forget to slash your slash \\ becomes \

E: wait the _ also needs to be slashed.

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As we don't have a top level post about this already (nor on reddit) I thought why not make one. Archive.is

Extremely likely the guy was a lesswronger, or at least radicalized by that sort of thinking.

But not much else seems to be known as far as I can tell. Corbin also posted about the HN reactions in the stubsack.

And remember, no fed posting.

Edit: looks like his house also got shot. Archive (after the speculation in this thread, makes you wonder if this was a follow up false flag, as the bottle didn't break last time).

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Via reddits sneerclub. Thanks u/aiworldism.

I have called LW a cult incubator for a while now, and while the term has not catched on, nice to see more reporting on the problem that lw makes you more likely to join a cult.

https://www.aipanic.news/p/the-rationality-trap the original link for the people who dont like archive.is used the archive because I dont like substack and want to discourage its use.

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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by Soyweiser@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

As found by @gerikson here, more from the anti anti TESCREAL crowd. How the antis are actually R9PRESENTATIONALism. Ottokar expanded on their idea in a blog post.

Original link.

I have not read the bigger blog post yet btw, just assumed it would be sneerable and posted it here for everyone's amusement. Learn about your own true motives today. (This could be a troll of course, boy does he drop a lot of names and thinks that is enough to link things).

E: alternative title: Ideological Turing Test, a critical failure

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Original title 'What we talk about when we talk about risk'. article explains medical risk and why the polygenic embryo selection people think about it the wrong way. Includes a mention of one of our Scotts (you know the one). Non archived link: https://theinfinitesimal.substack.com/p/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about

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Begrudgingly Yeast (@begrudginglyyeast.bsky.social) on bsky informed me that I should read this short story called 'Death and the Gorgon' by Greg Egan as he has a good handle on the subjects/subjects we talk about. We have talked about Greg before on Reddit.

I was glad I did, so going to suggest that more people he do it. The only complaint you can have is that it gives no real 'steelman' airtime to the subjects/subjects it is being negative about. But well, he doesn't have to, he isn't the guardian. Anyway, not going to spoil it, best to just give it a read.

And if you are wondering, did the lesswrongers also read it? Of course: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/hx5EkHFH5hGzngZDs/comment-on-death-and-the-gorgon (Warning, spoilers for the story)

(Note im not sure this pdf was intended to be public, I did find it on google, but might not be meant to be accessible this way).

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 41 points 1 year ago

I have joked before how people really into stoicism tend to be quite emotional and even a risky, as stoicism always seems to be aspirational and doesnt describe the stoic fans behaviour (a good example is the yter Sargon), but this might be a bit of an extreme example.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 38 points 2 years ago

The link to the article here clearly says 'Whisker Squadron: Survivor' to me. But here, a steam link.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

some weird pseudoscience justification for why it’s okay to hit your kids.

It is to me so weird how often this comes up. A big plot point in starship troopers (the book) was that due to not hitting kids (and a vague handwave at criminals but mostly kids) western democracies fell for example.

Now I wonder how the NRx with their pro corporal punishment stance (which iirc Scott liked) feel about hitting kids.

Im also annoyed at how much words are written about the Collins. Stop promoting these doofuses. (They have come up in sneerclub before) (Late edit: She said she was really unsettled by this interview on twitter Sorry to hear you stared into the abyss Jenny, and I didn't mean this as a personal attack towards you (not that you will read this but yeah))

E: a thing I was wondering about, with the pronatalist technofetishists, who say that both we will all die out by lack of births as old people starve, and who fetishize AGI and robot labour causing a post scarcity world, that seems contradictory, I wonder how the Rationalists deal with this contradiction.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 35 points 2 years ago

What if I made the line thicc?

Sickos: Yes Ha Ha YES!

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The interview itself

Got the interview via Dr. Émile P. Torres on twitter

Somebody else sneered: 'Makings of some fantastic sitcom skits here.

"No, I can't wash the skidmarks out of my knickers, love. I'm too busy getting some incredibly high EV worrying done about the Basilisk. Can't you wash them?"

https://mathbabe.org/2024/03/16/an-interview-with-someone-who-left-effective-altruism/

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Some light sneerclub content in these dark times.

Eliezer complements Musk on the creation of community notes. (A project which predates the takeover of twitter by a couple of years (see the join date: https://twitter.com/CommunityNotes )).

In reaction Musk admits he never read HPMOR and he suggests a watered down Turing test involving HPMOR.

Eliezer invents HPMOR wireheads in reaction to this.

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