Ah yes the more leftwing themotte user tracingwoodgrains. They place their windows in really strange places over there.
(For people not up to date on The Lore, he is one of the people who is behind TheSchism, an attempt to create TheMotte (sorry not going to explain that one today) with less rightwing assholes, the result)
Adding zizians to the list of things that sneerclub gets blamed for. After covid.
Guess they have not noticed we also have sneered at ziz, and that a lot of us are not living in america, nor the east coast of it.
My mind now replaces "ai agents" with "the moon" and im terrified tbh.
Yes, sorry, I forgot that this isn't that common term.
Also note that there is quite a lot of edge and badness in the metal scene, and a lot of this wasn't shunned/no-platformed nor criticized as hard as it should be (metal is not punk), so these bands must have been quite extreme for them to go to these kinds of measures.
N = 2 (this and judge dredd) right now, but was there a rise in fiction in the 70's/80's where they did the 'people live their whole lives in a skyscraper and didn't come out' thing? Is there some underlying societal fear I'm not super aware of? Or am I making too much of two examples?
Lol how has that user not been banned yet. Clearly somebody with a very specific axe to grind.
And of course the Rationalists start to the things they accuse others of doing. How quickly the pretense of civility disappears.
Lol, this is considered a footnote by the Rationalist/EA standards
Scott "I didn't actually read the book I reviewed" Alexander.
Ah we are at the ~~race science~~, no ~~HBD~~, no ~~scientific racism~~, euh racialism period of Eugenics.
(I could have also done this with AI).
"it is non-coercive" Guess they are not even watching Gattaca anymore.
"How dare you call us eugenicists!"
Is that top reply from Scott? And is he really saying that what is holding eugenics back for now is ethical concerns?
This is gold. Perfect example of what goes wrong with Rationalism. So EY has a shower thought which he thinks will help traumatized people (which fair enough, helping people is good. (I also assume he showers and not I don't know rub backingsoda all over himself as a lifehack. I only know these people over the internet)).
Sadly the thought itself is a first principles vulkanlike thought, which ignores the whole emotional part of trauma (and how complex trauma is), and starts from a wrong conclusion. (Trauma is the brain making learning a wrong thing). Then, what would a normal inquisitive person do, after they just had a thought like this? Well, ask people who know more about this, or if you have enough followers, phrase your shower thought as a question. But, because we think this is normal that is why we are not cult leaders, CEO's, Alpha Males, Innovators, etc. The thought is posted as a statement, a commandment from from up high. 'Thou shall not think of thyself as traumatized in my lightcone, after X thy meat incorrectly learned that Y!'
And when a few nonbluecheck fans (ow god why do the ones who agree with him all have bluechecks? (im giving him the benefit of the doubt and assume Musk gave it to him because Musk wants to suck up to EY)) disagree with him this gets handwaved away, or countered in a way that wrecks the initial remark.
Then there is the inclusion of the 'im being bullied for my dangerous ideas! But I tricked by bullies because they are dumb jocks who are traumatized by variables' part (of course he doesn't really want to get rid of the bullies, this is signaling to his audience). Absolute classic addition, this is why he is still The King. And also the small thing that he never loops his new idea back in on himself to realize that he himself has traumatized himself by making up AI fear scenarios.
Gold.
They believe in race and IQ, that people who code javascript blog a lot (no a lot) are superior (and should have all the money and power), and that the time of democracy is over. (and that some people should be reduced to biodiesel). They don't believe the world has gotten less violent, they believe in corporal punishment, leather jackets make you look cool no matter the situation, etc etc.
Ow and that you can build Skynet using Turing machines.
This is not to be confused with what the zizians believe, they believe a bespoke set of other wild things. But I have never really looked much into them.