Sorry for being unclear. What I meant is:
These actors play nice until they are too big to ignore [as a presence in the fediverse].
When they run the most and the biggest popular communities on their instances, do most of the development, offer the best tools and services in the fediverse, they have become too big to ignore.
If they then start playing dirty, it is too late to defederate them. They will play dirty. Let's not make ourselves dependent.
If Meta plays dirty, defederate them then. Now is just too premature.
These actors play nice until they are too big to ignore. If you let them gain that much ground, it's too late to isolate them without doing even more harm to your own network.
Also Meta is not a startup with unknown reputation. Meta plays dirty, that's a given.
if Google or Meta wants to join they should to us not us to them so if they break federation we should not care and continue implement our stuff
As I understood the article, the danger is that large actors like these are too important too ignore. Too many users, too much content to neglect. So while in theory you are obviously right, in reality there will be a temptation to cater to their needs, because it seems so worthwhile.
relatively homogenous
Some may be surprised by the cultural diversity this rather small country packs:
It has four main linguistic and cultural regions: German, French, Italian and Romansh. Although most Swiss are German-speaking, national identity is fairly cohesive, being rooted in a common historical background, shared values such as federalism and direct democracy,[15][page needed] and Alpine symbolism.[16][17] Swiss identity transcends language, ethnicity, and religion, leading to Switzerland being described as a Willensnation ("nation of volition") rather than a nation state.[18]
Due to its linguistic diversity, Switzerland is known by multiple native names: Schweiz [ˈʃvaɪts] (German);[f][g] Suisse [sɥis(ə)] (French); Svizzera [ˈzvittsera] (Italian); and Svizra [ˈʒviːtsrɐ, ˈʒviːtsʁɐ] (Romansh).[h] On coins and stamps, the Latin name, Confoederatio Helvetica — frequently shortened to "Helvetia" — is used instead of the spoken languages.
I also think the local traditions differentiating down to single villages are more important and alive than in other countries.
But yes, "national identity is fairly cohesive", maybe you meant that.
I think it makes sense to pour oil in the fire while it lasts, and only leave as you propose, once nothing can be won anymore.
The downside of leaving early is that it skews the picture. The apathetic remain, and their voice to return to BAU becomes disproportionally louder. It's also what the company counts on, that it 'will pass'.
But I also spend like 99% of my time here, and only visit the old site for a few minutes every other day. In the end, everyone will do what feels right for them, but arguments can be made either way.
Dear r/anime_titties community,
As many of you are aware, we recently held a poll to detrimine the future of this sub in light of Reddit asking to reopen. While most of you voted in favor of making this sub for actual anime titties, the original post was not a traditional poll post but instead a restricted post where the vote was decided by two comments, one for literal anime titties and one for returning things back to normal. And since the return to normal comment was hidden due to negligence on my part where I replied to myself instead of making two separate comment threads, it made for a really lopsided vote. I offer my apologies for this. Since the sub was under restricted mode for a bit and I was enjoying the glee of the moment, I didn't stop to think about whether or not the voting system was fair. You all can get mad at me for this since I deserve it. And now we are going to attempt an actual poll post with the two options and third option of returning to geopolitics and world news but marking it nsfw to reduce avenues for Reddit to get ad money. The poll ends in 48 hours so make sure to vote
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Interesting to see the interplay between power and civil disobedience.
It was naive to expect reddirt to bow down (which is why many thought the protest was pointless), but still the right thing to continue the protests.
What it does is, it forces the power to show face, and it creates a dilemma. Do they
Maybe you already noticed, I'm talking about something else, something bigger.
(1) Is why regular demonstrations (in themselves) have little effect; they can be ignored. They must be a stepping stone to further escalation, else you get statements like "this one will pass as well". The people protesting must be committed and follow through.
(2) Must be won in battle. There will be no gifts. It has to be the least painful option for the authorities, and remember it was their most painful option at the beginning.
(3) Very much depends on solidarity. With which side does civil society solidarize itself? Does it favor the force-applying authorities, because they remove an annoying obstruction to business as usual? Are the protesters the good guys, because they are fighting for a just cause and a better future?
Neutrality on this stance indirectly supports the stronger part, usually the authorities (which are in a position to use force). Using force has no real downsides (oversimplified), unless society heavily condemns it. By 'condemning,' I mean supporting the protests, ideally through participation.
Maybe after experiencing this with your once-favorite social media provider, you can see the next climate protest / civil disobedience with different eyes.
The good thing about redundancies is, they make the system more resilient.
If everybody flocks to one singular community/magazine for a topic, and the instance hosting that c/m decides to defederate your home instance (or vice versa), you're cut off.
When that's just one of many c/ms, it's less of a loss.
Glorious.
Everyone who posts or comments gets automatically banned by automod, as participation is working and against community ideals.
So good :D
I like what /r/pics did.
We – the so-called "landed gentry" – appreciate that Reddit is made great by its users. Uncompensated contributors populate the platform's many communities with their content, just as volunteer moderators keep spam and bigotry at bay. Since neither we nor Reddit would be here without you, it was only fair to let you determine what /r/Pics should include... and you overwhelmingly chose to feature only images of John Oliver looking sexy. (Seriously, the final vote was -2,329 to 37,331.)
As such, /r/Pics will henceforth feature only images of John Oliver looking sexy.
It's great, have a scroll. No intent to derail, here's the thread on !reddit@lemmy.ml: https://lemmy.world/post/206467
I wonder if a similar stunt would have been possible for /r/antiwork. Any ideas? How about: "You must rest on weekdays. Posts and comments are only allowed on weekends."
Interesting. I never heard of Evtopia, and I also did not understand Utopia as necessarily impossible. Could be possible or impossible, depends on context.
I also don't think being unreachable is necessarily a bad thing. Consider an 'Ideal'. Although some ideals may never be fully actualized, they are seen as something good and worth pursuing nevertheless.
But mostly, I don't think the opinions of proponents or opponents of this idea are swayed by wether we call it Utopia or Evtopia. If anything, using the more common term makes it more relatable.