For anyone who is a Trek fan, I strongly recommend MGM’s Forbidden Planet as ‘must see’ viewing.
It was the most expensive movie ever made in its time in the mid 1950s, and Roddenberry cited it as the kind of science fiction he wanted to bring to television in tone and high production values (for the time).
There’s a clear throughline to ‘The Cage.’
Also, you’ll see that George Lucas borrowed a few visual ideas for his Star Wars as well.
One gets the feeling that Paramount senior management have been paying more attention to review-bombed scores on Rotten Tomatoes, IMDb etc. and YouTubers than to actual viewing minutes and audience size.
While Nielsen stats are only for the United States, it’s clear that Paramount has been doing vastly better by Discovery than any of the naysayers have claimed.
The article suggests that the environment plays a significant role in gasturlation, especially the chemistry.
If identical twins develop in the same uterine environment, there would be greater likelihood of the same genes expressing.
Also excruciating.
Faith of the Heart will never not be grating for me. Too American, too 90s wannabe 70s soft-rock dreary & derivative, despite being a cover by a British singer of something originally written for and recorded by Rod Stewart.
This is exactly the kind of song that made me dread hearing soft rock music at dentist’s offices or physiotherapy.
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I’m continually positively surprised how many memes here kick off more serious discussion and speculation about the shows. It’s one of the things that sucked me in.
I’m not convinced that I will ever quite have the right sense of humour to have my own original memes take off here, but you guys make me want to stretch beyond my comfort zone.
Education, meaningful debate & self development. Wow.
We don’t know what be developed or not for the 25th century, but getting a new show developed and greenlit by Paramount is a long haul, and if they don’t like the initial draft pilots, they’ll keep at it.
Starfleet Academy has been in development as a show since at least 2018, with several changes of leadership in the team of creators. The original idea goes back decades to Harve Bennett. It’s finally got through the maze, let’s cheer that.
So, even if the senior executives are open and enthusiastic about an Enterprise G show:
don’t expect a formal greenlight announcement in less than a year after Picard S3’s finale (which is how long it took for SNW) and then another year to 18 months for production and post;
don’t assume that there won’t be major reworkings and/or changes in prospective showrunners from initial indications (as there was with Michelle Yeoh’s S31 which also changed showrunners),
Here’s some positive points towards Starfleet Academy
most fans were super sceptical about both Lower Decks & Prodigy but they are both well loved across generations;
“reopening the Academy after a hundred years” strongly implies this is in the 32nd century, post Burn, with a cast of largely new characters. Yes, we may see Tilly, some of the Discovery officers or (hopefully) David Cronenberg back as the mysterious Kovich, but that won’t be the principal cast of cadets;
the EP and coshowrunner Noga Landau was a senior writer with Henry Alfonso Myers on The Magicians. Yes, she took over running Nancy Drew for CBS Studios for the CW, but that was better rated when she did, and better than the usual CW teen targeted shows.
the other creator, and writer of the greenlit pilot was the head writer of the thriller Absentia (which has good ratings)
Tawny Newsome is a writer in the writers room.
So new time period, new characters, new team that has done good work for the target demographic. I’m hopeful.
I’d buy it!
Two versions of the Klingons!
The alternate opera version had better be an outtake special feature on the BlueRay.
Adding to the fun with TrekCore’s screencap-laden breakdown.
I defy folks here not to howl with laughter.
This made my afternoon.
Some of the criticisms fall in another category of beating on SNW’s alleged canon ‘violations’.
These include assertions that Chapel ‘isn’t the same person’ as she doesn’t have the same temperament/personality as in TOS, Uhura not having met or known of T’Pring before Amok Time, etc., Spock would have been ashamed to have eaten animal products (bacon), T’Pring’s ears have the wrong shape
While I can be quite critical of incoherence in plot threads or characters within a single show, especially in a single season (say in Discovery season two or every season of Picard), to me that’s a problem in how a set of writers are telling a specific story.
I’ve come to realize that the fans who just can’t get past continuity changes they can’t resolve immediately across the entire history of the franchise just aren’t going to enjoy SNW as much as I am.
I classify these inflexibilities as:
— not being open to the possibility that the characters may grow and change,
— not being open to the possibility of characters being unreliable narrators or saying things ironically in later shows (e.g., in TOS Uhura might tweak Spock about T’Pring to press him to identify who she is, even if she personally knew exactly who she was),
— refusing to accept that minor changes in timing, visual design, technology and characters are possible due to intertemporal interference as long as the Prime continuity maintains key/essential events.
In the end, hanging out here to have conversations with folks who are a bit more flexible is a better choice for me.
We have to keep in mind that we’ve only seen 20 of 46 episodes, less than half the full run.
I believe that the new benchmark for selling a licence for reruns on other streamers and linear has dropped from over 70 episodes to a bit over 40 based on various industry reports. So this definitely puts SNW above that threshold.
This does raise the question though whether there is a plan to morph this into some kind of TOS continuation past year 5 and TAS.