I think you're conflating "maintaining a global hegemonic order" with "fucking up a nation that has actively tried to harm the United States AND is provably committing war crimes."
Is American hegemony all sunshine and roses? Fuck no lol
At least it is built more on consensus of member states than a hegemony built up by dictatorships like Russia (which, let's be real, isn't ever gonna be a global hegemon) or China?
Not giving a hostile power control of 20% of the world's grain supply is a good one.
Demonstration of American commitment to stopping its enemies worldwide is always handy.
Weakening of a major geopolitical enemy's military capabilities for a fraction of the cost of a conventional war.
That's just off the top of my head, though.
"If you violate the Geneva Convention, your people don't get the protections of it" seems like a pretty reasonable way to justify the bombings tbh
In any case, there are some important considerations to be made here too:
After the horrors of Okinawa, US leadership expected a million casualties to take Japan itself, to the point where the Navy wanted to simply blockade Japan into submission. Given the Japanese civilians were already eating acorns and tree bark, and the military's entire outward appearance was to never surrender, it isn't unreasonable to assume Japan wouldn't have given up.
Of course, the Japanese were refusing to surrender to the US in order to surrender through the USSR in hopes of getting a better deal (protect the emperor, no war crime trials, etc.). Of course, the Soviets invaded Manchuria and dashed all hopes of that, which, according to many people, was the real reason for Japan's surrender.
It is a bit murky, but in response to the bombings and the invasion, there was a meeting on August 9th of the highest ranks of the Japanese government where it was determined that surrender was the only option and plans were drawn up to do so. However, on the 14th, there was an attempted coup by some army officers to continue the war, which failed after several high ranking officials refused to comply, among other things.
All of this taken together is not to say "the bombings were necessary," but rather to show the situation as it developed, and how many different things could have gone wrong and dragged the war on for longer (side note: Japan still held a lot of territory and there were plans to liquidate POWs and the like in the event of surrender)
Was it right to vaporize thousands? In a vacuum, no, certainly not. But in the complex context of a war in which millions had already died and millions more still very well could have, its tough to say.
Yeah, I hate that I have to compromise on things, but when it comes down to it, I'd rather have more rights and have to watch Palestinians die than have fewer rights and have to watch Palestinians die.
Its a fucked situation anyway you slice it, but there it is.
MAGA: "Migrants are burning down cities all the time (somehow), and injecting bleach stops coronavirus!"
(So-called) BlueMAGA: "I dislike some of Biden's policies and his response to Gaza, but I want someone responsible in charge."
anticolonialist: "I literally cannot tell the difference!"
It's pretty sad that your comments were removed, as discussing the logical conclusion of these situations is important.
We can't simply plug our ears and ignore the very real dangers of the justice system failing to punish people (whether justified or not). When people determine they have no other recourse, political violence is the logical conclusion of such a situation.
It's a terrible thing that there is a real chance for political violence to become mainstream, and simply ignoring that possibility is more dangerous than addressing it openly.
Something something Steisand effect...
Wha? They talked to Apollo's dev at the end?
Or do you mean a breakdown of the numbers and such?
My parents discussed getting divorced if it would help with my eligibility for loans/assistance. We ultimately determined it wouldn't be a net gain in enough ways to justify the negatives, but it is still fucked they seriously considered it as a viable option.
Man's going on a spirit journey with a coyote guide after this
I actually wonder if she has a different stance on Israel but simply will not/cannot talk about it because she is also the VP and it's a "bad look to go against the boss," so to speak.