[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What matter is context. Intentionally leaving it out is garbage.

As is not saying which ballots you're referring to. In this case, I assume its the presidential election where they are playing the role of spoiler?

Yes, it absolutely makes sense to legally challenge those.

But "some democrats" is just as garbage and useless a comment as "people are saying".

Edited to add: This is also definitively and explicitly not the same thing as saying ban all third parties.

Nonsense. Utter nonsense.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

The 2016 election disagrees.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

I don't agree about voting third or not voting is for her that I shall not name, but I'll concede it was not that long ago that I would have agreed. I've simply had a change in perspective.

Your perspective on this isn't really relevant, and neither is mine.

Its pure math. Not voting Harris bolsters Trump, whether its a third party vote or not voting at all.

I would hope you would take time to consider that.

I will absolutely not, because its a completely false equivalency. Maga is so much more than accusing someone of shilling. It is in absolutely no way comparable, and is in no way an idea worth entertaining.

Its garbage. Its intended to mislead. And you, right now, are a perfect example of someone falling for it. You're taking a minor item, which then becomes an equivalent of literally violent fascists who have no problem being in bed with white supremacists and christian nationalists who want a white christian nation.

No. It is absolutely not worth contemplating. That is absolutely farcical.

I hope you do mine, as well.

I always do consider what others say. I will not, however, waste time on those ideas which are 100% intended to mislead, especially those ideas championed by racist, hateful, fear mongering fascists. Those aren't worth my time. I don't think they should be worth yours either.

Have a good night!

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Antifa most certainly can be violent, but it largely depends on circumstances, or maybe I'm conflating the antifa activists who also participate in Black Bloc, or maybe they've just calmed down a bit here in the USA since they first blipped onto my radar maybe 30 years ago.

That was never debated, absolutely there can be violence. There is a difference though between a structured organization planning to terrorize people (Patriot Front, Patriot March, Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, Texas Freedom Force) and antifa, which is simply a network of.people unified by only one thing - antifascism. As such, antifa has no structure, no commander, no single person to listen to or be ostracized.

Which means involvement is limited to a specific task, not large scale terror efforts. These two things are not the same.

But let's ignore that for a second, and consider the other part mentioned to "equate" the violence. Protests. Specifically shooting at police stations and setting fires. And yet, that's not what happened - those were right wing provocateurs.

https://www.businessinsider.com/far-right-extremist-pretended-blm-pled-guilty-to-rioting-2021-10?op=1

In fact, of those who were left wing and arrested, most were not affiliated with any group.

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnicity-suburbs-health-racial-injustice-7edf9027af1878283f3818d96c54f748

Because the idea of antifa and BLM being organized violent groups on par with the hate groups / terrorist organizations I mentioned is specifically a right wing talking point, a complete farce.

Which leads us to the blue maga bit - this is another right wing talking point (as well as a tankies talking point, mostly to bolster the right in some weird hope for a civil war, which I will never understand).

In any case - these are not talking points of moderates. They are exclusively found within extremist groups/positions. Blue maga doesn't exist.

I haven't seen anything else that suggests antisemitism, so far, either. "So far" being key.

I'd recommend this comment right here:

https://lemmy.world/comment/12762297

I've been accused of RW talking because I'm definitely voting third party or not at all.

That is beyond unfortunate, effectively you are providing your vote to Trump. This is not a point for debate, that's what is happening. All third party candidates up for this Presidential election are spoiler candidates and nothing more. I've recently detailed out all the elements related to Jill Stein, including one of her supporters, at Jill Steins rally, specifically calling out their intention to make Harris lose. She literally serves no other purpose.

Make no mistake, what you are doing is the sane as voting for Trump. Again, you can do as you choose, just dont pretend what you are doing is anything but bolstering Trump, especially if you live in a battleground state. Because you are.

That's when a Jewish friend of mine pulled me aside and explained hasbara (it's not explaining, it's excusing the inexcusable, so yes, propaganda)

Thanks for the clarification, its been quite a while since I've been around many of my friends who do speak Hebrew, mostly due to covid.

I do have to add - your vote, which is effectively a vote for Trump, will ramp up what's happening. With Harris there is an opportunity for things to change, more than just words, but let's be honest here - she can't say that or she'll lose a significant group of voters in key states.

Trump has called himself Israels "protector". He also said:

I think that Israel has to do one thing. They have to get smart about Trump, because they don’t back me. I did more for Israel than anybody. I did more for the Jewish people than anybody. And it’s not reciprocal, as they say, not reciprocal.

But the nice thing is they’re entitled to an attack, and nobody will be upset if they attack, because they’re entitled.

So just to be clear here - a third party spoiler vote is voting for ramping up the bombing.

By all means, continue to look. But every comment in this thread they made is riddled with right wing talking points. This is not a moderate.

At best, they've been been tricked so thoroughly they are parroting all the maga hate talking points.

At worst, a paid poster.

I hope you have a good night too, and I sincerely hope you reconsider throwing away your vote.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Of the options... Flatpaks are, IMO, the best.

I still avoid them whenever humanly possible.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

What part of my comment makes it appear as if I wasn't aware?

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Yup, all visible. The only exceptions are fully private instances (or mostly private, with limited federation) and local only communities.

kbin/mbin also make all these votes public, so you could even just be on an mbin server and see all the votes. So right now its like... jumping over an 8" high hurdle. Or doing the limbo under a pole at 5'. You have to do something, just not much. I wouldn't call it completely non-trivial to do, but it isn't rocket surgery either.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Ok, so had to mention while looking at some game stuff to install... I remembered that I have a gog account, grabbed lutris, and boy is Quest for Glory 1 entertaining on this! QFG2-5 installed as well, unfortunately the touchscreen doesn't work great in that mode. Solaar + a spare logitech mouse and off to play... Going to have to grab my steam controller when I get up. I think a stupid fun classic game/emulation station is what this is going to be! (At least until I decide to do something else)

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Agreed - lets be honest, Lenovo put zero thought into this. Its just a tiny with a screen basically glued to the top, and tons of poorly managed cables coming out of the back. You could technically get away with just the power cord on it since it has wifi, but its kind of nonsensical that way. I could build a battery pack, but.... meh.

Small arcade is definitely a fun idea though, something I could stick in the living room. Since it has two video outs as well, I could set it up to take over the TV or just be a standalone as the mood strikes.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

I believe it was intentional.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

He very clearly says "Earth" in that scene, btw.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

I'm not an expert on them or anything, but feel free

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