19
Ok,I will say that I did put the disclaimer that that "outlet" was western owned, basically I wanted to show people what the western narrative is.
The western narrative which conveniently aligns with yours, and like every fascist and liberal ever.
Second,I disagree that Moldova is a "colony" of Romania. They are definitely distinct in their identity,but to classify them as a different people is quite frankly ridiculous
Romanians and Moldovans are similar, yes, I'm not denying that, but Moldovans do not consider themselves Romanian. Polls continously show even after Chisinau changed the official language to Romanian that people identify as Moldovan and as speaking Moldovan. Even older Moldovan sources, Grigore Ureche, say Moldova is not Wallachia.
However,you are correct when you say that Romania practically colonized Transnistria during WW2 and that it has no legitimate claim to the area.
Romania has no legitimate claim to Moldova. The "reunification" of 1918 was done to counter a Soviet Moldova. Romanian troops went in to protect the Moldovan boyars in 1918, there was no peaceful reunification, it was annexation like the Soviets have insisted for so long.
Also, for example, in WW2, the Romanian army had over 60.000 Bessarabian defectors. Moldovans didn't want to fight on the side of Romania. There was widespread celebration and happiness as Romanians got kicked out of Moldova with the Soviet arrival
I just can't square the circle that they're not at all connected to Romania (which has more Moldova than actual Moldova now).
I haven't stated Romania and Moldova are not connected, of course the countries are next to each other and influence each other. The problem is that even if Romania and Moldova are similar that does not give Romania a right to annex Moldova under the pretense of gathering all Romanians from everywhere.
Also,people not familiar with the history of the region?I live next to the point where Romania,Moldova and Ukraine meet,
I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to other Hexbear users.
but to say that Moldova,who literally speaks the same language,but with more Russian loanwords and an accent is frankly hilariously ahistorical
I agree that Moldovan and Romanian are 95% similar, yet people insist they speak Moldovan. I doubt Romanians know better than what the Moldovan people themselves say in numerous surveys
In the 2004 census, 16.5% (558,508) of the 3,383,332 people living in Moldova declared Romanian as their native language, whereas 60% declared Moldovan
In a survey conducted in four villages near the border with Romania, when asked about their native language the interviewees identified the following: Moldovan 53%, Romanian 44%, and Russian 3%.
Taken from fedipedia
Yes they are similar. No that doesn't mean they are the same. Even if you understand everything being spoken that doesn't override the autonomy of those people. Language is a highly political thing and saying Moldovans speak Romanian only furthers Romanian interests in the region, in this case taking over Moldova via "reunification".
I mean cozying up with the west is beneficial to Romanian national interests
Sigh, what the fuck? Can you stop with the whole "letting them pillage the whole country is actually beneficial cause we can get the land muh soviets stole from us" that the fascists also did in WW2?
but the idea that they'd be doing worse than small towns and villages in Romania already are I think is overblown
Small villages and towns are dirt poor and getting depopulated and actively brain drained. EU and Schengen would further the brain exports.
and frankly I'm with my country's interest on this one
Identifying with liberal US compradors that would send you to the frontlines to fight for NATO?
We take what we can from the west and then when they start looking less and less attractive as an option we go to the next power
NATO is building one of the biggest bases in Romania. NATO is occupying Romania, you cant just go to the next power.
so I'm not too inclined to attach a territory that is mostly populated by people way more culturally similar to Romania to the RF
I have never stated this. You seem keen to integrate Moldova in either Romania or Russia. By this standard many countries of the world shouldn't exist.
Of course,if Moldova wants to take a chance at independence,let them,but they have no economic potential.
Moldova is being hollowed out by the literal US embassy. Joining Romania would make that worse as the plunder will happen by the national comprador burgeois and by the EU way easier due to reduced tarrifs and being in the same country etc.
Belarus is culturally distinct and yet it seems to be more and more integrated into Russia by the day
Belarus has the Union State with Russia, they are neighbors and are integrating due to NATO aggression.
That's not a bad thing,is it? I agree that us being under the boot of the West will make this messy and cause a lot of pain,but you can't tell me Moldova is viable as a state.
This is totally different from Belarus and Russia cause Russia isn't trying to literally annex Belarus into itself, the union state isnt that. Also look again at what you are advocating for.
A "Moldovan federation" where Gagauzia and Pridniestrovie get to boss over Chisinau and Balti?
Suddenly the minorities in Moldova boss around the majority, come on.
Ok,let's say Romania wasn't under NATO,and Moldova wasn't under the thumb of the US. Would you be against unification if say,Dej's Romania unified with Moldova?
That would be up for Moldova to decide on. The current liberal narrative is that bad Stalin made up a whole language and culture just to shit on Romania, which is absurd. I can link to more pro-Moldovan historiography if you wish.
Thank you comrade! Exactly what I've been saying. You're always great with sources.
@RomCom1989@hexbear.net check above.