This is obviously insane, the correct conclusion is that learning models cannot in fact be trained so hard that they will always get the next token correct. This is provable, and it’s not even hard to prove. It’s intuitively obvious, and a burly argument that backs the intuition is easy to build.

You do, however, have to approach it through analogies, through toy models. When you insist on thinking about the whole thing at once, you wind up essentially just saying things that feel right, things that are appealing. You can’t actually reason about the damned thing at all.

this goes a long way towards explaining why computer pseudoscience — like a fundamental ignorance of algorithmic efficiency and the implications of the halting problem — is so common and even celebrated among lesswrongers and other TESCREALs who should theoretically know better

I will find someone who I consider better than me in relevant ways, and have them provide the genetic material. I think that it would be immoral not to, and that it is impossible not to think this way after thinking seriously about it.

we’re definitely not a cult, I don’t know why anyone would think that

Consider it from your child’s perspective. There are many people who they could be born to. Who would they pick? Do you have any right to deny them the father they would choose? It would be like kidnapping a child – an unutterably selfish act. You have a duty to your children – you must act in their best interest, not yours.

I just don’t understand how so many TESCREAL thoughts and ideas fit this broken fucking pattern. “have you thought about ? but have you really thought about it? you must not have cause if you did you would agree it was !”

and you really can tell you’re dealing with a cult when you start from the pretense that a child that doesn’t exist yet has a perspective — these fucking weirdos will have heaven and hell by any means, no matter how much math and statistics they have to abuse past the breaking point to do it.

and just like with any religious fundamentalist, the child doesn’t have any autonomy. how could they, if all their behavior has already been simulated to perfection? there’s no room for an imperfect child’s happiness; for familial bonding; for normal human shit. all that must be cope, cause it doesn’t fit into a broken TESCREAL worldview.

“endless drug-fueled prose about drugs” is an entire, unfortunate subgenre of Rationalist authorship. it takes them a surprisingly long time (usually a couple years or so) to spiral out and stop posting, but the posts usually get even less coherent as they approach burnout

We know what’s happening here. It’s not a mystery. This weird antropomorphization is prevalent on both advocates and critics of the tech. Both seem to be convinced that they’re dealing with a person.

It’s genuinely fascinating and mind blowing that coherent language emerges from it, and there are probably profound things about exactly when and how.

uh huh

seeing as your entire post history is this same flavor of bad faith bullshit, I don’t think we need any more of it here

nah we just don’t understand sneerclub. what we need is some random jackass whose post history is 2000 of the laziest posts I’ve ever fucking seen to come here and read the name of the community at us

and for those playing the awful.systems drinking game, that’s a shot

ok so this is driving me crazy

am I weird for thinking the circle of candles in the fireplace (in a house that’s allegedly unbearably cold) is weird?

at this point, multiple people involved in crypto have been famously caught with a crimes.txt file on their unencrypted desktop, in signal chats named some shit like financial crimes and real gamers clubhouse where they talk about the crimes and Fortnite they’re doing, or with toilet phones protected by ziplock bags with crime burner phone (with evidence of my crimes) written on the bag with a sharpie

yours has a fuckton of right-wing dogwhistles including this fucking gem about brave:

look, I’m not defending bigotry….

But an aggressive homophobe seems like the type to be highly motivated to care deeply about working privacy tools these days

So who exactly do you trust?

also a ton of moronic AI takes, though the bigotry was more than bannable enough. so off you fuck

is this post an extended retelling of the “I’m doing 1000 calculations per second and they’re all wrong” meme?

isn’t psychometrics the part of Talos I where you get the psychoscope?

the gish gallop that forms the majority of this article looks like an attempt to signal jam the criticisms section (which itself isn’t anywhere near as damning as it should be):

Research on the G-factor, as well as other psychometric values, has been widely criticized for not properly taking into account the eugenicist background of its research practices.[157] The reductionism of the G-factor has been attributted to having evolved from "pseudoscientific theories" about race and intelligence.[158] Spearman's g and the concept of inherited, immutable intelligence were a boon for eugenicists and pseudoscientists alike.[159]

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Some especially harsh critics have called the g factor, and psychometrics, as a form of pseudoscience.[161]

fascists will do anything to feel superior about a number they made up, and renaming IQ now that it’s got a lot of fash stank on it and pretending it’s different and sophisticated now, you wouldn’t understand is one of the older tricks in the fascist playbook

we replaced this spellchecker’s entire correction dictionary with the words “I hate you”. you’ll never guess what happened next!

I shouldn’t have to say this, but reporting an instance admin’s post for a joke you didn’t understand is incredibly bannable