Can you prove that ChatGPT is not conscious? No.
holy fuck shut up
Most shockingly to Urbit devotees and outsiders alike, the board welcomed back Curtis Yarvin, the project's founder, who left in 2019.
nothing has ever shocked me less than Yarvin “returning” to urbit
In 2015, a technical conference rescinded his speaking invitation. The following year, another tech conference lost sponsors and was almost canceled because it allowed him to speak, over objections that this verbose, bespectacled engineer would make attendees feel somehow "unsafe." (Perhaps some feared he would bore everyone to death by reading his posts aloud, or torture them with his poetry.)
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While the cancel culture of the 2010s and early 2020s may be subsiding, bringing Yarvin back remains a calculated risk for Urbit, William Ball, the board member, said on the developer call.
these fuckers are still fucking seething over their adult baby godking being asked not to come to a functional programming conference because he publicly advocates for a fascist takeover of the United States, receives funding from fascists, does press interviews promoting the fascist influencer circles he hangs out in, and is the computer science equivalent of a flat earther. how will our industry ever recover from the absolutely no value that was lost by disinviting him?
given how none of their rant applied to your OP, I’m fairly certain they didn’t read it and were just going off the title. see also how fast they went from a false critique of LLMs (“of course they’re not people”) to an appeal to an imaginary middle ground (“both proponents and critics of LLMs anthropomorphize them/think they’re sci-fi marvels”, a ridiculous claim to apply to your OP or to serious LLM skepticism in general) to smuggling in hype (“…but of course LLMs are revolutionary and we don’t know what they’re capable of”)
in short, don’t bother with this shithead, they’re just marketing OpenAI products to a particularly hostile crowd
and since we’ve confirmed you’re a fucking idiot… holy shit you were serious about that “you’re assuming P!=NP” post in the last thread?
fuck, I’m David’s fault too. do we take turns dating Grimes or is this the worst polycule ever formed
if my real-life friends were cooler, I’d have already arranged a watch party, drinking game, and post-sentencing celebratory cocktails
fuck it, we’re doing cocktails
The SBF
- fill a highball glass to 2/3rds with ice and apple cider
- float a shot of Skrewball peanut butter whiskey on top
- to commemorate SBF’s long history of bad decisions, garnish with a serving of your choice of citrus-flavored THC drinkable
- don’t actually do the above step you will throw up in front of your disappointed family
from the orange site thread:
Neural networks are not new, and they're just mathematical systems. LLMs don't think. At all. They're basically glorified autocorrect. What they're good for is generating a lot of natural-sounding text that fools people into thinking there's more going on than there really is.
Obvious question: can Prolog do reasoning?
If your definition of reasoning excludes Prolog, then... I'm not sure what to say!
this is a very specific sneer, but it’s a fucking head trip when you’ve got in-depth knowledge of whichever obscure shit the orange site’s fetishizing at the moment. I like Prolog a lot, and I know it pretty well. it’s intentionally very far from a generalized reasoning engine. in fact, the core inference algorithm and declarative subset of Prolog (aka Datalog) is equivalent to tuple relational calculus; that is, it’s no more expressive than a boring SQL database or an ECS game engine. Prolog itself doesn’t even have the solving power of something like a proof assistant (much less doing anything like thinking); it’s much closer to a dependent type system (which is why a few compilers implement Datalog solvers for type checking).
in short, it’s fucking wild to see the same breathless shit from the 80s AI boom about Prolog somehow being an AI language with a bunch of emphasis on the AI, as if it were a fucking thinking program (instead of a cozy language that elegantly combines elements of a database with a simple but useful logic solver) revived and thoughtlessly applied simultaneously to both Prolog and GPT, without any pause to maybe think about how fucking stupid that is
and often the fact that you hear about it at all means the movement is fumbling it less than other movements that would keep it quiet
I just can’t get over how far this is from reality. like fuck, for a lot of these things the controversy is the community covering for the abuser, or evidence coming out that sexual harassment was covered up in the past. depressingly often in tech, the community doesn’t even try to keep it quiet; instead they just loudly endorse the abuser or talk about how there’s nothing they can do.
/r/SneerClub
these people are so terrified of Satan Church that they haven’t read the change of address we stabbed into the front door with a ceremonial dagger like 5 months ago
oh also, meta-ironic cult is also a term used by Remilia and some of the other Thiel death cults to describe themselves
wait, so the AI is just your fears about capitalism?
Same elementary school logic but I mean this is how a nuke works.
what. no it isn’t
like the thing I can’t figure out is, what in the fuck did they think we were quoting and reacting to?
actually nah I can figure it out, they saw a link to reddit and decided they had a cake to shit on
and as everyone knows, you can’t cut off a cake shit mid-log