You don't know what's happening to the other hostages either but you assume the worst and eat Zionist propaganda up.

Nearly the same amount of Palestinian children have been randomly murdered by Israeli bombs as people died on the 7th, thats not even counting all the other innocent men, women, press, UN staff, medical workers and hostages that have died because of Israels indiscriminate bombing.

They are currently mowing the lawn with bombs rather than gunning them down. The effect is the same.

There have been 1000 people detained in the west bank recently, Israel is detaining Jewish citizens because they are going against the government by calling for peace.

Israelies can not currently enact their right to protest against the government. That doesn't scream democracy to me.

The fascist Zionist state hurts Israeli Jews as well as Israeli/Palestinian Christians and Muslims.

You wouldn't mean these hostages?

Israeli settlers and soldiers tortured, raped and murdered Palestinians in the west bank.

Israel also is imprisoning a number of Palestinians including 500-1000 children in military detention each year and currently an estimated ~150 minors in the Israeli prison system, are they not hostages?

If I go to Gaza/west bank, based on the deaths so far I'd be more likely to die by IDF stray bullets or Israeli bombs than by hamas.

You ignore Israeli crimes and just point out hamas, its exactly what you accuse me of doing.

Nah you only ask what happened on the 7th, you don't want anyone to look earlier than that.

2023 was already one of the bloodiest years for Palestinians before the 7th.

Israel has been punching for years then crys when they get punched back only to punch all the harder while still playing the victim.

Ofc they have a responsibility to their own actions but I would view them like the French resistance. Paraphrasing from a BBC article on war crimes committed by the French resistance: you can commit what is morally wrong while still being on the side of righteousness.

You are removing responsibility from a state that has a duty to protect it's people. Never mind that it was very likely they knew something was coming.

They would not kill me at all because I'm not a settler living on stolen land. If you are scared that they will kill you you've got to ask yourself why. Most people in the world do not live on occupied land and do not live under any such threat.

Israel was responsible for the 7th, they created the situation and they moved troops from the border to torment the west bank. Israel failed it's people on that day.

You try the same old shit, I call out Israeli crimes and you say I'm endorsing terrorism. I can be critical of terrorist organisations at the same time as being critical of nation states.

Remember Israel just spent 7 million dollars on YouTube ads in the past 10 days, so i hope youre not pushing state propaganda for free, they can well afford to pay you too.

I said kill OR displace 2 million, they don't need to kill to commit war crimes or ethnic cleansing.

Israel also bombed the supposedly safe route to the south, so there goes the whole benevolent state lie.

Israel doesn't minimise damages, it in fact calls for the most extreme revenge against Palestine and minimises the media coverage when it blows back against them.

No matter what hamas has done it can't be allowed to deflect from Israeli crimes, Israel has been called out by the UN for committing genocide.

The fact you compare a terrorist organisation to a state that should be expected to be held to a higher set of standards is pretty damming to that state.

All in lemm.ee and even lemmynsfw for me matches what they said. LW and sh.itjust.works might just be all furries 👀

I would have to disagree on the absolutism bit.

I would consider that the Haitian slave rebellion or Warsaw ghetto uprisings were intrinsically good.

I would wish to see liberation of oppressed peoples be a universal law. I would wish for this to be applied to all and I wish for everyone to act on this.

I believe the above fits under Kantian ethics.

Atrocity propaganda, the journalist tweeted that they overheard that from a soldiers conversation and reported it as fact.

No evidence yet it is true.

Hate to break it to you again but peaceful methods didn't work at the start of the troubles and protestant view were already hardened. It took a lot of violence to get to a point where things changed. You can argue that political solution and peace could have happened before 98 but as for a lot of civil rights movements violence started to get things moving to a point where the oppressor has to engage in more peaceful ways.

I meant that I'm European

Might just be a European pet peeve 🤷

Any good leftist socialist comms you've found on Lemmy? I'm just following anarchism @hexbear.net and whatever floats my way on All from hexbear and lemmygrad