It's not really a bad comparison, Israel has dropped a shit load of ordanence, more than the US used in the Afghan war.
It is funny how you only care about Palestinian civilian deaths when there isn't enough of them.
Hamas' goal is not to eradicate the Jewish people you dolt, are you about to bring up a document written by a couple of people that is largely ignored by most and even refuted by Hamas that they follow it?
Pure Zionist playbook that one.
The ultimatum posed to me was democracy vs god emperor, in this context it is clearly putting democrats as the democratic option and republicans as the theocratic authoritarian option.
Me saying in response:
democracy (fascism lite) vs fascism
Is not me saying democracy is fascism, its me saying the two options both look like fascism from outside the US.
The current problems in the middle east are mainly due to western powers. Whether that is the British or French drawing random lines on a map over 100 years or america destabilising resource rich countries.
Things that make it look like the US is the bad guy once again:
Unironically we wouldn't be in this situation if the US and israel weren't dicks about everything.
It is extreme.....
4,200 murdered, 1 million people displaced all in 10 days. (From a UN article dated the 17th, probably not the current total)
There's an esrimated 50,000 pregnant women now without proper healthcare, never mind the those with chronic physical or mental health issues.
The general population facing lack essentials like food and water.
Did no one tell you it's cringe to defend fascist states or does that boot taste nice?
A state doesn't have this right but when we talk about the right to self defence for individuals proportionality is very important. Most countries would not allow you to claim self defence from a mugging if you decapitated the attacker and sent the head to their family.
Also if you're both siding a genocide you're either misinformed or for some reason siding with fascism.
If you are calling for peace without removing the genocidal state then you are just calling for a continuation of the genocide.
Palestinians have a right to risist occupation under the Geneva convention. You don't get to tell them how they should resist a truely horrific situation.
Israel is breaking international law by occupying and attacking Palestine. But most countries choose to look away and even directly support the genocidal state.
This is like saying both sides are bad between the SS and resistance fighters because resistance fighters also committed war crimes.
If you view WW2, Ukraine-Russia war, or SA apartheid as one sided then you are a hypocrite to not apply the same thinking here.
Rape as an act by itself is obviously morally wrong and should be condemned but it did not happen in a vacuum.
Let's flip it, Jewish people, disabled people and gays faced terrible oppression under the Nazis. Any violence they or others had done in resistance to that oppression shouldn't be condemned. I'd like to think you wouldn't argue with me on this point.
Now flip it back, Palestinians are facing a powerful fascist state that dehumanises them and seeks to eradicate them. Any violence they do in resistance to that oppression should not be condemned.
Why do you see the two differently?
Did you even read the Mark Twain piece?
As long as there is oppressed peoples there will be injustices, both for the oppressed and for anyone unlucky enough to be caught in the inevitable lash out.
You will never get me to condem oppressed peoples and I will always side with oppressed peoples against fascist states.
If you are not antifascist then what are you?
There were two 'Reigns of Terror,' if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the 'horrors' of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break?
What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror--that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.
Mark Twain
I did look through their Lemmy posts but arguably its not the full story I'll admit.
The act with no context committed in a void is terrible, but we're not talkimg about theoretical ethics, everything has context and that context can change everything. You probably wouldn't be so angry at videos of resistance fighters raping and murdering Nazis and collaborators, why? Because of the context.
Violence against oppression is not something that can or should be condemned by those who have never faced that oppression.
Also hate to break it to you the settlers will be an issue for as long as they are there. Look at Northern Ireland, it's been 400 years and the settlers there are still an issue. Look at America, it's been 300 years and the settlers there are still causing issues for the indigenous people.
I'm anti NATO, I understand how it works.
My original gripe is with your use of Anglo, Ukraine is not part of NATO, had much more influence and history with Russia than the US/UK, speaks Ukrainian and are ethnically Ukrainian.
You don't have to be Anglo to be racist. Europe, EU and NATO are all more complex that just saying anglosphere and it makes you look silly to reduce it down to white man bad.
I just used it as an example since it's pretty much the lingua franca of the internet and it's what we are currently using. The same argument applies to any other language.
My main point with that bit was that a lot of content exists on the internet without any translated versions and the world hasn't ended because of this, look at non English Lemmy instances.