Wonder what the engineering solution to this could look like..

Thinking something like a zero trust model being required for all web requests.. Like the target address would need to receive a validated identity token from some third party but that token couldn't contain identifying info about the requester. Likewise, the validating third party would need to verify the identity of the requester without having knowledge of the target address.

Then that raises more questions like who would we all be comfortable trusting as a verifier and what data would we use for that validation? The validation system and the data used to validate would need to be provided for free too to account for low income people so no subscription services or hardware MFA keys. Also who counts as an identity to be validated?

What do enforcement mechanisms look like if this does get built? Are the validators entirely passive or do they actively participate in the process? Like do we have rate limits imposed by the validation engine or do we just leave that to the target address/organization to impose themselves? What happens if someone is banned from a site? Does the site notify the validators to drop requests earlier in the lifetime of a request? Do individuals get a lower request quota than corporations? Would you have to form a company just to prototype a new tool/product?

If someone seriously wanted to work on this I'd jump on the opportunity to work with them. It sounds like a fascinating project.

This is what it feels like to interact with the Linux/opensource/selfhost people sometimes.

"bUt ThEy CaN wAtCh YoU!!1!"

Compared to what?

Because it could be half that without a union.

Who cares.

You think Americans do t pay property tax?

This is not the same thing as an exit tax.

For example, two people each own identical houses. One lives in the US and one lives outside. Both decide to keep it until they die. They both owe property taxes. If the person living outside of the US renounces their citizenship, they owe an exit tax even though they did not sell the property. The value of the house didn't change. It's location, owner, property tax obligation.. Nothing changed.

There is nothing wrong with this. It should just be applied equally. If there is going to be a wealth tax, I want it applied to wealthy Americans even if they don't renounce their citizenship.

The FOSS absolutism is exhausting.

The unix philosophy is about what runs as processes at the system level.

I don't know what you mean by "system level" (cat is userspace) but I don't believe there is any clarification about what kind of applications should apply to the unix philosophy or not. It doesn't say that applications "should do one thing and do it well only if it is a system process or terminal based program built for purely shell environments."

Also, if the argument was exclusively about OS processes, dbus should be in the firing line of everyone in the anti-systemd camp too. That never gets the same level of hate.

The unix philosophy is old and, while nice to have, is insufficient to fully address the needs of the modern world. It's not as simple today as it was in the 1960s and 70s and we need to embrace change to progress.

people that don’t want Linux to evolve

Exactly this.

The philosophical arguments are pretty garbage. I generally want to know if the "it violates the UNIX philosophy" people use browser extensions.. That violates the UNIX philosophy too. Systemd "is backed by big corp" but who do you think is actually contributing time/effort/code to the Linux kernel? It's the device manufacturers who are trying to get you to buy their products.. So that fails too.

No offense to anyone reading this but if you're really passionately anti-systemd, I would not hire you. This is a dumb hill to die on and a red flag.