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submitted 3 weeks ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world

I for one have stopped posting any content to lemmy.ml communities.

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[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Why are we shitting on .ml instances? Sure there's a few idiots who use them but they're the vocal minority.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 weeks ago

There something about .world's culture that supports uncritically circlejerking about how bad is.

Mention hexbear and you'll get half a dozen .world comments accusing them of anything from being secret republicans to antisemites to russian trolls or chinese bots, and how awful they were when they brigaded every thread on .world.

Note that .world has never been federated with them.

[-] Faresh@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Note that .world has never been federated with them.

(actually they were for a short while, right after hexbear started federating with other instances (hexbear had until then been completely isolated from the rest of the fediverse as their fork of lemmy didn't support federation). that was a very chaotic time though)

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[-] Faresh@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

Huh. I must have mixed it up with another instance then

[-] zante@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

The intolerance of .world basically.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

My meme is calling for growth of non lemmy.ml communities on any instance. I could not give a fuck about .world specifically.

[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago

How are they intolerant? .world has been very welcoming in my experience.

[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If you're down voting me it might help to explain why. I was asking from a neutral perspective. I don't think anyone gains from dismissing a genuine question.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world -3 points 3 weeks ago

There are far more than a "few idiots" and worst of all, they're admins and mods and quite frankly, just overly toxic to newcomers. They're a bad look for Lemmy overall.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 weeks ago

If you'd ever expressed an opinion about the Russian or Chinese governments that isn't abject praise, you would know why we're shitting on .ml instances

[-] zeroday@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Actually, the opinion I see most often on .ml is that modern day Russia sucks, and is bad because they've turned into a capitalist warmongering empire similar to the US. People are pretty mixed on China, but legit if you just look at the technological advances coming out of China - just verified stuff that's been scientifically proven and then deployed - it's pretty impressive, especially surrounding batteries. So, if you're suspicious of China then any good news about China will come off as a conspiracy, but in reality things are pretty mixed and there's a lot of good and bad about nations, and no one state is all good or all bad. Anyone reducing the complexity of geopolitics down to one nation = good / other nation = bad is either dumb, trolling, not speaking in good faith, indoctrinated or just repeating propaganda.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 weeks ago

People are pretty mixed on China

Acknowledging that the CCP censors people is part of what got me banned lmao

I've never been suspicious about the technological advancements coming from China, it's really just the censorship and oppression that I've criticized

[-] zeroday@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

Oh lol, that's weird, I thought it was common knowledge that China censors some types of speech, similarly to every other nation. If I was running a state, I'd want to censor transphobic slurs, arguments for gender inequality, pro-Capitalist propaganda, racism, etc. IMO there's nothing inherently morally wrong about censorship, and I see a lot of think pieces from US / NATO outlets like Voice of America yelling that China is bad because it censors speech, without giving any context or nuance about what type of speech is being censored and also distracting from the US's massive censorship.

On the oppression point - I guess it mostly matters who's getting oppressed. If it's regular working people being oppressed, fuck that, but if we implemented policies as a society that forced billionaires to give up their wealth I'm sure they'd cry about being "oppressed". I don't have any sympathy for the cries of CEOs and mega-landlords about how they're being oppressed by being forced to give back their stolen wealth.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

China censors some types of speech, similarly to every other nation

Yeah but they censor speech a bit more similarly to North Korea or Oceania than to any western country. Remember that time Kathy Griffin posted a picture with an effigy of Trump's decapitated head? Her career was ruined after that, but she notably faced no legal consequences. Contrast that with the CCP, which doesn't even allow you to mock the head of state.

Not allowing working class people to openly decry the government is oppression. But I'm sure you can find several headlines about how much working class people support the CCP, as if that isn't evidence toward the fact that they're not allowed to criticize it.

[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago

Oh so it's not about marxist ideology itself? It's about fake leftists who support authoritarian dictatorships and call themselves progressives despite the two being incompatible.

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