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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by doublepepperoni@hexbear.net to c/games@hexbear.net

(Game here is Parasite Eve 2)

It didn't happen in every game but often enough that it's noticeable. They're usually not shot as straight-up titillation, instead going for a tasteful nudity kind of thing and intended to fulfill some kind of storytelling or characterisation purpose

"You see, you gotta show them being vulnerable. They may be badass, but they're still girls, after all" morshupls

-90s game director, probably

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[-] regul@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

Kojima kept doing it even in MGSV with Quiet.

But at least in pure kino Death Stranding the oft-repeated and important to gameplay shower scene is all about the Reedus. Is it better if he's a creep towards two different genders?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"Yes but that's because she's a plant with plant skin who gets energy from the sun and needs water through her skin or something so it's fine."

- Kojima

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago

many people have taken this as Kojima making up a ridiculous excuse to have a half-naked lady in his game, entirely missing his actual, intended message - that he's really turned on by plants

[-] Packet@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

Oh my fucking god, this is so hot, uhhffddt, aaaaaaa, its all over the place!!!! - says kojimbo after seeing Taraxacum officinale

[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

Directed by M Night Shyamalan

[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

the world is full of shameless fanservice, right. but what seared Quiet into my mind without even playing her game is that Kojima said weird stuff like 'you'll regret being so narrowminded you fools and monsters'

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

lol i don't actually know whether this was terminal bazinga marketing-brained stuff to say or just outright trolling

[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

maybe its both, with a dash of kojima developing a parasocial relationship with his own videogame character

[-] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

ah but Тихий breathes and drinks through her skin, so she CAN'T wear too much clothing! nerd

so there is lore justification why the super special badass operative has her breasts out all the time, does that also impact the creep factor?

[-] Verenata@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

so there is lore justification why the super special badass operative has her breasts out all the time, does that also impact the creep factor?

It compounds it imo. If he'd owned it and just been all "I'm horny" then it wouldn't be such a meme. The End did a similar thing and didn't need to be nude, she didn't need to be THAT sexualised to satisfy "the lore".

[-] regul@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

If he'd owned it and just been all "I'm horny" then it wouldn't be such a meme.

Aka the Yoko Taro method.

[-] Verenata@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah like I love kojimbob but omg dude it feels so much more insidious when a guy tries to defend objectifying women like it's okay if man buries your criticism with "but lore" grrrrrrrr.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

Mgs5 was such a fucking mistake all over. 4 was trash too, but a direct sequel to mgs2 was a task he made impossible when making mgs2. 5 had a story teed right up and he wiffed it so hard.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

Especially when Peace Walker was so good. I even liked Ground Zeroes for its sheer shock value and was curious to see what it would lead to. A whole lot of nothing as it turns out agony-wholesome

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

I was down with GZ shock value stuff cause I was expecting mgs5 to be a really fucking dark game cause Big Boss was a really awful person, just playing the story straight and not having the body double twist and fucking let the villain of the series do a war crime or two! The overall series makes less sense with the game as it is.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

"The real Big Boss was YOU all along" kojima

Wow Kojima, how incredibly clever, bravo. I'm really glad you wasted your final go at the franchise for this lame gotcha

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

Kojima lost the plot with Big Boss When he fell in love with him making mgs3 or something. Giving him more fleshing out was good, but it seems to have been forgotten he was a monster who's philophy featured child soldiers as a very integral part of his society. It's like if the Star Wars prequels (as bad as they are, the example works) didn't have Anakin do anything morally questionable and he doesn't become Darth Vader by the end but the OT remains as is. You'd be like 'soooo..when did anakin become evil?'

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

You can, uhh... get a nuke that does something in the game's asynchronous multiplayer component. Nukes are bad, right???

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, being a non aligned mercenary state is in itself awful, but the game doesn't really get into that. Everyone you abduct into your service are just totally into it and it's only bad when they get sick. It's all just so stupid and pointless and damn does the gameplay wear off fast.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I fucking hate the existence of Cipher, XOF and the MGS4 twist with the Patriots actually just being the surviving characters from MGS3 instead of whatever the fuck MGS2 was hinting at. It sure is convenient that there is an unfathomably evil fictional clandestine organisation and a big bad for Big Boss and his ragtag group of heroes to fight. Thought things were about to get morally questionable for a second there!

Peace Walker was silly but at least the conflict was rooted in real-life factions and history, and the Cipher stuff was only brought back in during the epilogue after the main story had ended. 4 and 5 are just completely masturbatory anime scifi bullshit

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Agreed. I had a lot of fun with Peace Walker cause it wasn't entirely up its own ass and the gameplay was great. Making The Patriots into the entire cast of mgs3 absolutely pushed the series over a cliff it could never come back from. Not only is it shallow and stupid compared to the less tangible patriots we got in mgs2 but it also just doesn't make any damn sense from a character perspective for most of em. Why the hell would SIGINT give a fuck about any of this? Same with Para-Medic.

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