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Many older games with female protagonists went out of their way to include random shower scenes
(hexbear.net)
(Game here is Parasite Eve 2)
It didn't happen in every game but often enough that it's noticeable. They're usually not shot as straight-up titillation, instead going for a tasteful nudity kind of thing and intended to fulfill some kind of storytelling or characterisation purpose
"You see, you gotta show them being vulnerable. They may be badass, but they're still girls, after all" 
-90s game director, probably
ah but Тихий breathes and drinks through her skin, so she CAN'T wear too much clothing!
so there is lore justification why the super special badass operative has her breasts out all the time, does that also impact the creep factor?
It compounds it imo. If he'd owned it and just been all "I'm horny" then it wouldn't be such a meme. The End did a similar thing and didn't need to be nude, she didn't need to be THAT sexualised to satisfy "the lore".
Aka the Yoko Taro method.
Yeah like I love kojimbob but omg dude it feels so much more insidious when a guy tries to defend objectifying women like it's okay if man buries your criticism with "but lore" grrrrrrrr.
Mgs5 was such a fucking mistake all over. 4 was trash too, but a direct sequel to mgs2 was a task he made impossible when making mgs2. 5 had a story teed right up and he wiffed it so hard.
Especially when Peace Walker was so good. I even liked Ground Zeroes for its sheer shock value and was curious to see what it would lead to. A whole lot of nothing as it turns out
I was down with GZ shock value stuff cause I was expecting mgs5 to be a really fucking dark game cause Big Boss was a really awful person, just playing the story straight and not having the body double twist and fucking let the villain of the series do a war crime or two! The overall series makes less sense with the game as it is.
"The real Big Boss was YOU all along"
Wow Kojima, how incredibly clever, bravo. I'm really glad you wasted your final go at the franchise for this lame gotcha
Kojima lost the plot with Big Boss When he fell in love with him making mgs3 or something. Giving him more fleshing out was good, but it seems to have been forgotten he was a monster who's philophy featured child soldiers as a very integral part of his society. It's like if the Star Wars prequels (as bad as they are, the example works) didn't have Anakin do anything morally questionable and he doesn't become Darth Vader by the end but the OT remains as is. You'd be like 'soooo..when did anakin become evil?'
You can, uhh... get a nuke that does something in the game's asynchronous multiplayer component. Nukes are bad, right???
I mean, being a non aligned mercenary state is in itself awful, but the game doesn't really get into that. Everyone you abduct into your service are just totally into it and it's only bad when they get sick. It's all just so stupid and pointless and damn does the gameplay wear off fast.
I fucking hate the existence of Cipher, XOF and the MGS4 twist with the Patriots actually just being the surviving characters from MGS3 instead of whatever the fuck MGS2 was hinting at. It sure is convenient that there is an unfathomably evil fictional clandestine organisation and a big bad for Big Boss and his ragtag group of heroes to fight. Thought things were about to get morally questionable for a second there!
Peace Walker was silly but at least the conflict was rooted in real-life factions and history, and the Cipher stuff was only brought back in during the epilogue after the main story had ended. 4 and 5 are just completely masturbatory anime scifi bullshit
Agreed. I had a lot of fun with Peace Walker cause it wasn't entirely up its own ass and the gameplay was great. Making The Patriots into the entire cast of mgs3 absolutely pushed the series over a cliff it could never come back from. Not only is it shallow and stupid compared to the less tangible patriots we got in mgs2 but it also just doesn't make any damn sense from a character perspective for most of em. Why the hell would SIGINT give a fuck about any of this? Same with Para-Medic.