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Basil posting on Lemmy.ml lol
No one thinks or thought this was genuinely a communistic/theory based thing. Everyone here has basically said something about him likely being a reactionary from the very day the assassination took place
That doesn’t make it less good the dude got got, like this has definitely shown how cathartic it has been for the masses and how universally derided healthcare is.
People are 1) literally just enjoying the fact that a usually untouchable person caught one and that’s it and 2) not necessarily taking the pigs word as sacrosanct straight out the gate.
I really used to be one of those "all life is sacred" people, I thought I would never get satisfaction from the death of another, but after learning just how little human life matters to people like Brian Thompson for example, and how much they profit from the exploitation and ruination of human life, I have been surprised at how pleasant his assassination has been. It's also that we are constantly having to hear about people who don't deserve to die being subjected to humiliating and unjust deaths both in the news and our personal lives, it's somehow nice that it went the other way for once.
Nah social murder is murder and many are too callous with human life they deem inferior. Some people just need to be gone for good.
Nuance? On my Hexbear?
The issue is you have bad reading comprehension and read a level of sincerity or complete misrepresentation into most of the comments you’ve replied to.
Half of the people in these threads don’t even know wtf you’re talking about bc you stood on a soapbox about how the guy is reactionary as if everyone didn’t already know that lol
This is a valid criticism that boils down to me being an annoying jerk in this instance and is very valid.
I can see this as true.
Yeah I really again don't buy this, there's plenty of "benefit of the doubt" being given here to shitposters. The same shitposters would be banned for supporting fash if they said the same exact things for a different reactionary moron. My problem is that if your excitement for the death of a CEO is leading to tongue and cheek, am I joking am I not, rehab of this dude, you're not as ideologically committed to "leftism" as you claim.
So say it very plainly, I'm not sad a healthcare CEO died. I'm sad that if tomorrow Atom Waffen (or similar neo-reactionary group) started executing healthcare CEO's there's a portion of this site that would be like "based" -- when politically that's really troubling even if they're killing "our enemies".
There's absolutely not a clear-eyed ideological understanding here among the majority of users. There's simply blood lust.
The first part really should inform your understanding of the rest of what’s gone on in these threads.
Misinterpreting stuff so badly that when you talk about it to someone it comes off deranged and tangential to the point they’re confused probably shouldn’t be seen as a win bud. You’re doing
shit that isn’t really productive.
As for the last thing. Idk how you don’t understand that people are supportive of the fact he killed a ceo. It is not the same as supporting a fash doing fash things like killing racialized and colonized people. And to try to equate the two is frankly real goober shit idk what to tell you
You think you’re dropping truth nukes and ruining fun but you’re just overly simplifying things, not really grasping the nuance of what people are saying and embarrassing yourself by insisting that’s not what’s happening when it very self evidently is
Yes. I need to be more productive on lemmy, the most productive place of all time, not a place I go off shitposting.
If I was to fully describe the irony that is happening here it is this: “Hexbear culture is now seemingly tolerating if not out and out celebrating a fascist for something he’s done, but will not tolerate a fascist in order to get them to do something they would find worthy of celebration.”
You understand it’s a shit post forum that isn’t that serious but simultaneously think all the shitposting about this guy is 100% sincere (and also take the cops at their word immediately). You’re either just being a dickhead to argue for the sake of it or are genuinely confused and lack the awareness to recognize it. Either way 👍
If Alex jones mercd a ceo tomorrow there would be jokes going around about “Alex jones welcome to the resistance” but no one would seriously think it made him a friend of the left or something
Acting like people joking about this guy a bit here and there is genuine betrayal of leftist principles while you by your own admission aren’t taking any of this seriously and being a general asshole to people you assumedly would consider comrades is wildly baby brained.
nobody asked but I just want to say that if Alex Jones merc'd a CEO tomorrow he'd still go straight to hell for harassing sandy hook parents but at least the CEO would be there waiting for him
It would also be the end of comedy because the funniest possible thing would have already happened.
There is absolutely zero credible evidence this is actually the shooter, I can't believe you are claiming to be a serious person while taking feds/NYPD at their word and in the same breath claiming to just be here to shitpost.
You're still talking for some reason, so i guess I've changed my mind, you and your bad argument need a good drubbin'
No matter who you are now, if you are a yank or westerner? chances are you were once a liberal, cuz that's where we all start.
Liberal brainworms are lost throughout the life cycle of all leftists, and you have one in particular i'd have you expunge.
Your specific bug is: coming into this thread to make a very specific point, phrasing it in such a way as to foment argument, and engaging in ad-hominem. (Do not @ me with the literal definition of liberal holmes, i see your fingers twitchin')
Whatever you claim your politics are, the words you use itt have that hallmark-huff of pigshit on em what tells me you've got a lot more reading on logic to do before you are able to hold useful discussions. Until then, you are a liberal. Sorry, i don't make the rules.
Since you claim you read theory i sure hope this means youre capable of changing your mind, cuz i'd like to watch you grow beyond this puerile bad-faith shit-stirrin crap.
You'll start by understanding on a deep level that you're average. You're not dumb by any means but remember! You're not above average either, ok? Don't take it from me, tell yourself this, even if you don't believe it. It's the only way you'll rise above lib-level posting.
i'm not even saying that to get you angry, it sure would be neat if i could somehow word this in a way to prove what i want is you to be better than this.
If nothing else, Leftists need to be convincing and focused and what you're serving is harmful noise. Do you have the empathetic intelligence necessary to understand what i mean by "useless and harmful", even if you disagree? Can you see why others besides myself might be unimpressed? Prove it. Prove it in silence, understanding that the strong emotions you are feeling inside do not translate as your having something of substance to say.
Outside of this thread, could you defend the posts and attitude you took today to your leftist peers?
I can't wait spank me daddy.
Already off to a bad start. I was born in the Ukranian SSR. My software is Marxist-Leninist from birth.
Spank me daddy.
Oh no I was mean???? How could I be so mean and so incendiary. Could It be because I am shit posting?
Everyone who is mean to me is a lib. I don't make the rules.
Lmao good one, you want me to send you a head shot so you can use the calipers?
Ah yeah shitposting on the shitposting site is harmful noise if you're shitposting in the wrong direction.
Yes. This is stupid online noise that doesn't actually mean anything, my leftist peers in real life do actual organizing with me and also shitpost online when they're bored.
Now while i understand why you mentioned organizing irl (its a great humblebrqg to make forum-posters feel bad) inspecifically told you i wanted for you to rise above the purile on a forum, because outside of this moment, you and i talking here, you don't exist.
I didn't ask you to humblebrag about your leftist cred, (the.... empty way you claim it too, bringing up your "organizing" simply to defend your arrogance makes me feel worry for them).
What you claim to do irl means nothing to me. Why would it?
i asked you if your peers would think well of your actions. I asked if you had empathetic intelligence. I asked if you could be better. You answered me fuckin brilliantly.
What a cryin fuggen shame
Ok. Thats the most insulting thing you've said this whole time. Disengage.
Have you tried starting a book club.?