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A bizarre racist outburst at a Texas school board isn't an isolated event — it's part of a national pattern

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[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 1 year ago

This is a lie white people use to justify their systems and make themselves feel better.

Racism, as we understand it, is a historical system that was, in fact, invented soley by white male Europeans and their descendants for the purposes of managing their empire.

Tribalism isn't racism. Racism uses tribalist tendencies to achieve its aims. Racism is a very specific historical phenomenon.

[-] Lemmylefty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

“Oh no, that’s just sparkling tribalism. REAL racism comes from the Champagne region…”

[-] Zorque@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Why is looking at the root cause of something a "justification" in your mind? If all we do is react to what's happening now instead of finding out how to prevent it from happening in the future, we're just fighting a losing war of attrition for the sake of ideology. In order to solve this problem we need to look at more than just the surface, and do more than just point fingers at everyone else.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 year ago

Why is looking at the root cause of something a “justification” in your mind?

Have you ever heard of a leading question? This is an example of one, because you assume tribalism to be the root cause of racism. What evidence do you have to support this argument? Why does tribalism exist for tens or hundreds of millennia but racism only get constructed as capitalism is in the process of emerging from feudalism? Doesn't sound at all like tribalism is the root cause of racism.

If all we do is react to what’s happening now instead of finding out how to prevent it from happening in the future, we’re just fighting a losing war of attrition for the sake of ideology

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Don't react to people "being racist" as though it's just individual behaviors. See it as a historical process. When you see it as a historical process, you see that racism is THE national pattern of the USA, because the USA emerged in the same context that racism was being constructed in. It's accurate to say that the USA and racism are deeply related because racism was being invented as part of the colonial project and the USA emerged from the colonial project and because racism was being invented as part of the capitalist project and the USA emerged and extended and ultimately maximized the capitalist project.

In order to solve this problem we need to look at more than just the surface, and do more than just point fingers at everyone else.

Do you think that seeing racism as a system that was constructed by Europeans as they entered the 1400s and through to the present day is looking at just the surface or pointing fingers at everyone else? Really? That's your assessment of that position? Well, blow me down, I don't really know what to say to that.

It seems to me that saying "racism is just tribalism and everyone engaged in tribalism" is quite literally a surface level analysis that quite literally points the fingers at everyone else. Your assessment is pretty on the nose for exactly the position you hold. But I've come to expect projection from white liberals at this point. You seem incapable of seeing the irony of accusing me of the very thing you are doing.

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