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After confirming the authenticity of the Bigo livestreamer with the authorities, The Times searched the Apple and Google app stores for other video chat apps. Reporters identified a sample of more than 80 apps that advertised children before stopping the search. They later contacted Homeland Security Investigations, the government’s main law enforcement group for international exploitation, for comment.

“The number one customer base paying for this abuse is in the United States,” the agent said. “It’s not like they are abused once a day. It’s 50 men getting 50 separate shows. They’ll wake up these kids in the middle of the night to be abused.”

Asked about The Times’s sample of offending apps, Mr. Sainz said a majority had been detected during the company’s standard review process, with an additional 20 taken down after an internal investigation in response to The Times’s findings.

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[-] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 17 points 4 months ago

Uh, jesus christ, also what the fuck.

Computers were a mistake, and the internet just made it worse.

[-] ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org 25 points 4 months ago

What's described in this article is a symptom which is not caused by technical progress but by poverty and greed

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

Poverty and greed on one side, and fucked up people on both. Someone spending $130,000 over 10 years on this shit is insane from two perspectives...how can you consume this content for one, and secondly, how can you afford all that much money for this?

It doesn't seem like the consumers are messed up by poverty. And I have no idea what's causing them to be messed up, and therefore, I have no idea how we stop the consumers from wanting to consume.

Because like you said, as long as there's a market, this is likely to continue due to the greed and poverty aspects on the "seller's" side...

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

Exploitation is fundamental to capitalism. It's just more obvious in this case.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

Most capitalist societies draw the line somewhere before "Gaining capital through the Sexual exploitation of children is ok"

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

Keep telling yourself that.

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 4 months ago

Which ones? Epsteins clients came from all over the world....

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

Actually consensual economic interaction, aka free market activity, is fundamental to capitalism.

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 4 months ago

Where can I not consent to capitalism in the world, without having to starve and be homeless?

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

You consider this consensual?

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

not caused by technical progress but by ~~poverty and greed~~ capitalism

No need for liberal euphemisms.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago

You can just call it capitalism.

[-] zooi@feddit.nl 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah child abuse didn't exist before capitalism

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Child abuse for profit?

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

Nor did paying for it apparently. And it certainly doesn't exist in whatever replacement OP wants...

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

Are you saying that child abuse for profit exists outside of capitalism? Any examples?

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Look at any authoritarian regime. Here's an article about laws by country, and Russia and China rank very poorly. I don't think we can trust statistics for authoritarian regimes, but those statistics exist if you look.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Because children are free to be raped, making it a free market activity?

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 4 months ago

Basically, yes. Everything is commoditized, even the abuse of humans.

[-] johannes@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl 21 points 4 months ago

Because before computers and the internet there was no child abuse? Child abuse is of all ages. And who is more vulnerable to it? The weak and the poor.

Personally, i believe we'll see more and more of it, as most of society gets poorer and poorer. People will do anything to survive.

This is just an easy way to earn money. And its easier to reach a bigger audience. But i don't think its gotten worse because we have the internet. Thats just bullshit in my opinion.

But then, i don't have any kids, so what do i know about abusing your child for money.

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