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Fuck Ukrainian Azov Nazis and fuck anyone who defends them
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Why do you consider this bullshit, exactly? Do you disagree that russians in eastern ukraine were treated unfairly?
It's the excuse used every time a country wants to claim dirt from another one, at least historically. Is that all it takes to justify a war now?
Would you be defending France if they invaded Belgium in order to protect French-speakers? Mexicans and other Spanish speakers are threatened in the United States, does that mean Mexico is entitled to invade Texas and Florida?
The idea that Russia has any right to protect anyone besides its own citizens in its own borders is based on the idea that Ukraine is "meant" to be in Russia's sphere of influence, but I don't believe in spheres of influence.
If Mexico could win that conflict, unequivocally yes I would support them. The US has repeatedly committed kidnappings, forced sterilization, and summary executions against those populations. The US government should be destroyed, but even just those state governments being destroyed would be great.
No, the idea is that countries are not people, people are people. If a country is going to fuck people over and those people want a specific other country to intervene, the people running that other country are free to intervene. Who gives a shit about what a federal government says about a region that deservedly hates it?
One of the first actions of the maidan government was to suppress the use of Russian language in the east. Why are you accusing Russia of a theoretical that Ukraine actually did?
I don't think Putin would annex western Ukraine, that certainly wasn't part of the discussion in any of the several previous iterations of negotiations over the civil war.
I just noticed that a self-styled communist user was implying that Mexico invading Texas would be bad because of it violating US sovereignty. Take that fucking hammer and sickle off of your profile picture, you miserable poser. You're a neoliberal with radical aesthetics and an embarrassment.
Anyway, it's also worth noting that Ukraine is perhaps the most historically-revisionist country in Europe (followed by Poland). The cult of Bandera is now basically just saying whatever they want about what happened during the Holocaust, or rather they are saying anything short of "the Jews had it coming," and the government promotes it. Things weren't looking great before, either. Whatever Russia has to say about textbooks in Dobas -- aside from correctly having most of them printed in the native language of their readers, i.e. Russian -- would be a clear improvement over this.
afaik Donbas didn't care intrinsically about the EU, it cared about the actions of the reactionary government that was installed by coup in order to push Ukraine towards the EU over Russia.
Francophone Belgians are not french. They barely were part of the same country. While for centuries there wasn’t an distinction between Ukrainian and Russian. Half of Ukraine has only been part of Ukraine since the 1920s.